I wish there were more triads in my county jail… :(:(:(
I wish there were more triads in my county jail.
sorry. we’ll try to get to work on that right away. lol
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This is a historical depiction of the Battle at Bannockburn in 17th century Scotland.
Nice find! Totally relevant!
[QUOTE=MASTERforge;803531]Its quite possible that organisations this old will have their own martial styles and techniques. No doubt having special signals to recognise each other similar to the Masons.
I remember reading ages ago on the internet after being a little side tracked from research, about the Triads. It was how HSBC is owned by the triads.
The original bank Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation was created to finance British trade in the far east in 1865.
It argued that this would have been impossible without the cooperation of the Triads who had influence over the countries assets. They owned businesses, banks and had many government officials in their pocket.
So for Britain to trade successfully it had to cooperate with the Triads. This meant they were given a stake in Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation. This allowed the British to trade freely and also gave them access to otherwise closed markets.
This would make sense as a centuries old organisation would not be expected to operate on the same level of street thuggery that it began its life in.
If you look at HSBC’s history it is one of acquisition. It grows through buying other companies aggressively. If those influences that created Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation still exist, they would be operating in a similar manner.
Notice the hexagon logo. It was created from the original Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation flag. Could it be a triad sign?
Whether I not this account is true, I simply do not know. But it made for some interesting reading.
What I am sure is that the Triads are not restricted to street crime, neither are the mafia. They get smart, rich and get into the financial markets. This has been proven.[/QUOTE]
I would say that it is quite possible that the British did make a deal with the Triads to “lubricate” their way into Hong Kong’s business ins and outs. Of course, one must also remember that the British were trading drugs in that part of the world through the East India Company and it is said that the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation was used to launder the profits from the British drugs trade (some say that this is still happening today, as the British still trade in drugs through their intelligence agencies - MI6/MI5, just like the US does, through the CIA):
"After the second Opium War which ended in 1860, the British merchant banks and trading companies established the Hong Kong and Shanghai Corporation as the central bank of the Far East drug industry. According to all research I have read about the drug network, the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank, with its global connections, continues to be a financial centre for the drug industry to this day. 10
“The Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank now calls itself HSBC Holdings since China regained Hong Kong and HSBC owns one of the four British clearing banks, the Midland. This had a long advertising campaign calling itself the listening bank and the bank that likes to say yes. I dont remember it mentioning the number of times its owners have said yes to laundering the profits of the drug industry which is destroying the lives of so many” - David Icke from his book, The Biggest Secret.
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A funny thing is that I have noticed that either some schools are very patriotic as you see in their school, celebrating or praising the armed forces or they are actively involved in the organized crime.
I suspect that during those periods end of 1800s until 1949, martial artists were one way or the other heavily involved and we know many well known masters were the chief of militias, military stations and trained several armed groups.
Also, people don’t mention the butcher of the organized crime during those times: Du Yuesheng, Big-Eared Du who was highly respected until his last days in Hong Kong. I wouldn’t be surprised that many schools had the blessings of the big boss. May be we need to find more about the alliegances of schools in the organized crime.
Also, people don’t mention the butcher of the organized crime during those times: Du Yuesheng, Big-Eared Du who was highly respected until his last days in Hong Kong. I wouldn’t be surprised that many schools had the blessings of the big boss. May be we need to find more about the alliegances of schools in the organized crime.
hmmm. i’ve never heard of a gung fu connection to the Ching P’ang. Hung Mun, yes, but nothing so far on gung fu schools involved with them.
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im comparing it to the rediculous of beliefs in kung fu
*stroke beard
Start a gang bawang. I swear blood oath.
im already in a gang called chang’s cherubs
we all ave hair like elvis
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1125327]David Icke from his book, The Biggest Secret.
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Quoting David Icke eliminates credibility.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1125348]hmmm. i’ve never heard of a gung fu connection to the Ching P’ang. Hung Mun, yes, but nothing so far on gung fu schools involved with them.[/QUOTE]
There was/is a very strong connection with Qing Bang, especially with Jingwu in Shanghai. Luo Guangyu and many of Qixing Tanglang family were Qing Bang. Also many Shandong, Jiangsu and Shanghai masters who went to Taiwan. Some masters positions in official genealogies are technically not correct but are shown that way because they were higher ranked in Qing Bang and therefore could not be ranked lower than their subordinates.
BT
Quoting David Icke eliminates credibility.
I agree. these guys are a little tripping. i remember they tried to say the illuminati are at war with the hung mun because the former was going to kill off the entire asian race. buncha kooks.
There was/is a very strong connection with Qing Bang, especially with Jingwu in Shanghai. Luo Guangyu and many of Qixing Tanglang family were Qing Bang. Also many Shandong, Jiangsu and Shanghai masters who went to Taiwan. Some masters positions in official genealogies are technically not correct but are shown that way because they were higher ranked in Qing Bang and therefore could not be ranked lower than their subordinates.
ahhhh very interesting. i’d figured some northern schools might be involved but had no idea who would be. thanks for that info.
The Qing Bang used to be called the Qing Mun until Hung Mun was created. Qing Mun was in its third generation at the time but after a meeting with the five ancestors the Qing Mun changed to the Qing P’ang. So, i would say that Hung Mun also has some root in the Qing Mun/P’ang.
[QUOTE=pazman;1125356]Quoting David Icke eliminates credibility.[/QUOTE]
That is what I used to think, too. Also, I have seen similar info, as regards HSBC from other sources as well.
Having looked at his work more carefully, I have found him infinitely more trustworthy than our political leaders (and their puppet masters), not to mention the lap dog “free” :rolleyes: media.
Actually, he has sourced his info in the quotations provided:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret14.htm
Also, I would suggest people listen to the message first before they pass judgment on the messenger. 
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1125362]I agree. these guys are a little tripping. i remember they tried to say the illuminati are at war with the hung mun because the former was going to kill off the entire asian race. buncha kooks.[/QUOTE]
I have never seen David Icke associated with such claims.
I believe, if we want a better world then we need to open our minds a little more. Not by reading the work of researchers such as Icke, but also reading genuine history of the world we live in.
We live in a world where people still believe that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, just because of mere fact that their psychopathic leaders told them so through a controlled media.
The majority of Americans don’t know that the Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel! In the “free” nation of the USA, no one knows who owns the Fed, and most politicians are silent as the lambs that they are.
There are wars, revolution and slaugher happening all over the world, but no one sees the arms suppliers and the money trail and where it leads. People brush it off as “well, humans are like that, we like wars and killing each other”.
It is good to research outside of the controlled media that is imposed on us. Just saying…
If you check out David Icke, you won’t be far into his ramblings before you can clearly make the decision that he is perhaps somewhat mentally unhinged.
seriously, the guy is OUT there.
we can all see the obvious and it doesn’t take a genius to point out hypocrisy or inequity in our world, but this guy and his ilk? Yeah, borderline crazy.
[QUOTE=MASTERforge;803531]Its quite possible that organisations this old will have their own martial styles and techniques. No doubt having special signals to recognise each other similar to the Masons.[/QUOTE]
I’ve always been fascinated by stories of Mason flashing these signals during traffic stops and being let off without getting a ticket, or during court and having the judge rule in their favor; but my google searches for such signals have yielded dubious results at best. Does anyone know of any links showing the authentic Masonic signals (or the ones for these mutual aide societies while we’re on that topic)?..
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1125348]hmmm. i’ve never heard of a gung fu connection to the Ching P’ang. Hung Mun, yes, but nothing so far on gung fu schools involved with them.[/QUOTE]
Wasn’t Du Yue-Sheng known to practice like some white leopard or white panther style kung fu?
Wasn’t Du Yue-Sheng known to practice like some white leopard or white panther style kung fu?
Bak Fu Pai (White Tiger) = doo wai i believe.
the Green Gangs Du, i don’t believe any mention of a style he trained in. but dang, look at what happened in this mans life:
Born in Gaoqiao, a small town east of Shanghai, Du’s family moved to Shanghai in 1889. By the time he was nine, Du was orphaned - his mother died in childbirth, his sister was sold into slavery, his father died, and his stepmother vanished - leaving him to return to Gaoqiao and be taken in by his grandmother. He returned to Shanghai in 1902, working at a fruit-stand in the French Concession before being fired for theft. After drifting, Du became a bodyguard for a brothel and there fell into favor with the Green Gang, the most powerful secret society in Shanghai. He joined the group at the age of 16.
No, but they’re not spelled the same way though.