Originally posted by Serpent
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WTF are you smoking!?
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Some kill, if you must know 
The jab was added to the CMA sometime in the early 20th century after a bunch of border skirmishes with the Russians.
CMA are training methods, not fighting methods. Big difference.
You sure about that? 
Yup. You can train in Tai Chi and Shuai Chiao and BJJ and boxing. Are you going to pick and choose what you use in a fight?
Let the semantical arguing begin.
What if you only train in Tai Chi? Mixing styles does just that—it mixes everything up.
Put peanut butter, ice cream, and milk in a blender, and you have no choice but to drink the milkshake. Don’t put them in the blender, and you can choose to eat any of them individually.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
What if you only train in Tai Chi? Mixing styles does just that—it mixes everything up.
If you’re in a fight, and your opponent is standing there dazed, are you NOT gonna haul back and crack him as hard as you can because it’s not proper Taiji body mechanic?
What if you only train in Tai Chi? Mixing styles does just that—it mixes everything up.
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“If you’re in a fight, and your opponent is standing there dazed, are you NOT gonna haul back and crack him as hard as you can because it’s not proper Taiji body mechanic?”
Of course not - hauling back might give him the time to shake it off. Go in for the kill with short range power, homes!
and …
Put peanut butter, ice cream, and milk in a blender, and you have no choice but to drink the milkshake. Don’t put them in the blender, and you can choose to eat any of them individually.
The point being that if you are trained to fight in one style, you are more than likely going to fight that way. If you mix a bunch of stuff up, then it will look like whatever it looks like.
If you’re in a fight, and your opponent is standing there dazed, are you NOT gonna haul back and crack him as hard as you can because it’s not proper Taiji body mechanic?
Why wouldn’t a Taiji player hit someone? The Yang style has punches, and I don’t see why using them would necessarily contradict your training.
The point being that if you are trained to fight in one style, you are more than likely going to fight that way. If you mix a bunch of stuff up, then it will look like whatever it looks like.
again… and???.. LOOKS has nothing to do with the fight… i dont see what the big deal is my stuff not looking like XY or Z… as long as i’m the one NOT getting my azz kicked… peanut butter milkshake
Originally posted by MasterKiller
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Why wouldn’t a Taiji player hit someone? The Yang style has punches, and I don’t see why using them would necessarily contradict your training. [/B]
What if the punch isn’t in Yang style? Are you gonna not use it?
My handwork is currently: Jab, Pi, Beng, Hook, Overhand right. I don’t think about which one is boxing and which one is Xing Yi. I’m going to start elbow work soon (I hope) I doubt I’ll be worried which is Muay Thai and which is Kun Tao. Please see my sig for more.
mmmmmm peanut butter…
You know, I’ve been thinking and I’m starting to wonder if Thai styles are the real street lethal…
Thai styles include Masaman and Pad Thai; and either one could keep you goin, long after they’re gone…
Of course Chinese styles have their General Tsos & Pan Fried dumplings; but the flavors never seem to get along with each other. Too much infighting between the hot mustard sauce and the sweet and sour chicken. You could go stir fry, but everyone will accuse you of creating too much of a mish mash.
Everyone knows that Japanese styles are minimalist at best. While wasabi packs a little punch, udon keeps you smiling, & katsu kurry can take it home; when an outsider sees a single piece of raw salmon sitting on a few grains of rice he’s gonna wonder when the cooking’s gonna get started.
I guess what it all boils down to is that every style has their own fried rice and it’s the skill of the chef, not the name of his restaurant that matters.
Another delusional rant brought to you by blatant underfeeding.
What if the punch isn’t in Yang style? Are you gonna not use it?
And what if monkeys fly out of my butt tonight? The punch is there, and a taiji player would use it.
again… and???.. LOOKS has nothing to do with the fight… i dont see what the big deal is my stuff not looking like XY or Z… as long as i’m the one NOT getting my azz kicked… peanut butter milkshake akkk…
Study X, Y, Z, and you’ll use a little bit of X, a little bit of Y, and a little bit of Z.
Study only X, and you will use only X. Looks has nothing to do with it. Catalog of techniques, and the emphsis placed on them, has everything to do with it.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
And what if monkeys fly out of my butt tonight? The punch is there, and a taiji player would use it.
So that’s how you back up your argument? If you want to discuss MA let me know. stupid little $hit.
If I use a double leg takedown, is it my BJJ, Judo, Wrestling or Sambo training?
If I use a double leg takedown, is it my BJJ, Judo, Wrestling or Sambo training?
You tell me.
When I use a double leg takedown, it’s my Kung Fu training.
What if I use an inner-thigh reap throw? Judo, BJJ, Sambo or wrestling?
OUR point is that your desire to make distinctions is meaningless because good principles transcend stylistic considerations.
If it works, there is a near duplicate or identical move in another system.
Asking “which is it” is a meaningless question.
my mom like good Pad Thai… i’m a Lard Nah person myself… and a GOOD japanese style is too expensive…
Study X, Y, Z, and you’ll use a little bit of X, a little bit of Y, and a little bit of Z.
i dont have a problem with that…
Catalog of techniques, and the emphsis placed on them, has everything to do with it.
so everything in ya crib is from the same store too huh?.. since we wanna us metaphors…
If I use a double leg takedown, is it my BJJ, Judo, Wrestling or Sambo training?
naw its called… “D@@@@mn, son got the sh!t slammed outta him”… well that what they call it 'round my way…
If it works, there is a near duplicate or identical move in another system.
EXACTLY!
Which means you are using fighting applications, right? Not merely training methods.
Which means you are using fighting applications, right? Not merely training methods.
Oooooo… this is THAT arguement… i wasn’t tryin to get into that one… carry on…