[QUOTE=lkfmdc;951272]seeing things that don’t actually exist is the sign of a mental disorder[/quote]missing the obvious is a sign of spiritual blindness.
I suspect that you, like most people who dabble in questions/fake “kung fu” know you have no real skills and you resent those who actually fight.
your definition of kung fu is quite different than mine… that much is obvious.
IE that is really YOUR problem…
i have no problems, only solutions.
bathing is clearly not one of them.
awwwww… big bad fighter guy is scared of body odor and a little bit of dirt under his nails.
No head gear. If ground game is allowed there’s no way its not shifting or popping off. If a fighter is not comfortable fighting without the head gear they shouldn’t go to something like this because they very well may face amore seasoned guy who is.
You have to change that ultimate weight class. A 187 guy should not have to face off with a 220 lbs regardless of how few people are drawn. It’s not fair.
Also curious, is this a tournament with multiple fights? Or just one fight?
How long were the rounds? Ring or cage?
This sounds like something TCMA could use but you should try to sanction it. Move it to Jersey if you have to. But then it may draw MMA folks and TCMA guys will probably back out by the bushel.
Oh well. There’s plenty of venues in NJ and Conn for guys that want it.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;951639]Also curious, is this a tournament with multiple fights? Or just one fight?
How long were the rounds? Ring or cage?
This sounds like something TCMA could use but you should try to sanction it. Move it to Jersey if you have to. But then it may draw MMA folks and TCMA guys will probably back out by the bushel.
Oh well. There’s plenty of venues in NJ and Conn for guys that want it.
Best of luck. Keep everyone safe.[/QUOTE]
I talked to the guys who are holding the event and they says it’s not MMA. I remember fighting in the Fu Jow Pai events which allowed elbows, knees, and no more than 2 or 3 strikes to an opponent on the ground. I fought Jonas Nunez in one of those tournys. The fights were held in the auditorium at the school right near Confucius Plaza. I guess it was legal then.
btw, I’m going to Fajardo to work out with some WC guys in Sept. Where on the Island are you?
They may not be calling it MMA, but the rules (what they are allowing) seem to put them in the MMA catagory. Submissions and striking, headgear or not, is considered MMA. From what I hear, schools can get closed down for hosting these events.
I’m sure they go on all the time, but it would seem like advertising it on the web would increase the chances of getting found out.
[QUOTE=Lama Pai Sifu;951650]They may not be calling it MMA, but the rules (what they are allowing) seem to put them in the MMA catagory. Submissions and striking, headgear or not, is considered MMA. From what I hear, schools can get closed down for hosting these events.
I’m sure they go on all the time, but it would seem like advertising it on the web would increase the chances of getting found out. :([/QUOTE]
I did ask if it was alright to post the event and was told it was OK. Hopefully everything will work out fine for them.
I’m in Playa Jobos, Isabella. Holler if you want to hang. It’s an amazing place and there’s actually a lot of good MA down here. Lots of good judo, BJJ, kick boxing and boxing. Lots of Kung Fu clubs too. The guy I just lost too studies with a kung fu guy.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;951656]I’m in Playa Jobos, Isabella. Holler if you want to hang. It’s an amazing place and there’s actually a lot of good MA down here. Lots of good judo, BJJ, kick boxing and boxing. Lots of Kung Fu clubs too. The guy I just lost too studies with a kung fu guy.[/QUOTE]
My 2nd wife was from Isabella. I’ll pm you when I get a flight. It would be good to meet some other KF people on the Island.
Is there a way to make it just a “seminar” or “training day”… sort of how we used to do throwdowns. Everyone goes on their own accord.
I think you could just sanction it across the river but that would take time, energy and money… though guys who are going to show and do it right deserve it. At the same time, I’m all for seeing it happen instead of bad mouthing it.
Of course, and this goes for any venue, the organizers always set the stage for their advantage. For example, sounds like the ground game is not free, where a BJJ guy can take his time and wind someone down, just work them in side control.
This is why I like MMA so much: universal rules. Fair weights. Doctors.
I know how the kung fu guys think, I spent a lot of time with them… I’ve done kick boxing, I’ve done MMA, I’ve done the meet in the park. Sanctioned events draw the best fighters. These are guys that like to hit people, train very hard and are at top condition.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;951660]Is there a way to make it just a “seminar” or “training day”… sort of how we used to do throwdowns. Everyone goes on their own accord.
I think you could just sanction it across the river but that would take time, energy and money… though guys who are going to show and do it right deserve it. At the same time, I’m all for seeing it happen instead of bad mouthing it.
Of course, and this goes for any venue, the organizers always set the stage for their advantage. For example, sounds like the ground game is not free, where a BJJ guy can take his time and wind someone down, just work them in side control.
This is why I like MMA so much: universal rules. Fair weights. Doctors.
I know how the kung fu guys think, I spent a lot of time with them… I’ve done kick boxing, I’ve done MMA, I’ve done the meet in the park. Sanctioned events draw the best fighters. These are guys that like to hit people, train very hard and are at top condition.[/QUOTE]
Seminar, throwdown, or workout might sound better. I’ll pass that idea on.
This sounds cool but is it an event or a tourney?
If it is just one fight for an audience, you can’t really expect people to pay.
For a tourney though, I’d be down.
Can’t see how you would get shut down, the 10 second rules and the headgear make it not quite MMA IMO. Even so, amateur MMA is not illegal, it is just unsanctioned, big difference. Pro MMA is illiegal, not amateur.
[QUOTE=LI GUY 1;952188]Well that might be because kickboxing is under their control? Isn’t kickboxing sanctioned/regulated by them on the ammy level? Where as Am MMA is not.[/QUOTE]
Above is not correct in any way. I’ve spent YEARS literally in the trenches with the NY commission
The problem is this, you can read the law (I suggest you do) and say “well, it means this” but the counsel for the commission can say “we interpret to mean this” and then they can send the police, fire department, state liquor authority, dep of sanitation (I’ve seen them use ALL of those) to close you down
Of course, you can try to take them to court AFTER THE FACT but that isn’t going to help you as they’ve already shut down your show
if the commissoners come down to shut the event down, why not round them up and toss them into the ring… LOL… people need to stop being pushed around by ridiculous regulations - i thought this was the land of the free?? LOL… NOT - free to do what you’re told is more like it.
If we were all free sport fighters like us would have our way with all your kung fu guys’ women and there’d be nothing you could do about it < ----- my attempt at pointless forum antics.
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;952220]If we were all free sport fighters like us would have our way with all your kung fu guys’ women and there’d be nothing you could do about it[/quote]that’s because our kung fu women would kick your a$$.
< ----- my attempt at pointless forum antics.
i have a discounted seminary class… contact me for details on how to truly rip thru people on the boards with ease.
LOL there is a girl where I train BJJ, used to do Kung Fu, and I forgot how good she was. Rolled with her the other day and kept thinking “**** how is she so small and strong, AND I am WORKING to sub her!! Hard!”
Never discount a woman in MA who has a passion for it.
