Thank you for the definition, and no they are not sociopaths per se, but they do have sociopathic tendencies. If you think that sociopathy entails a lack of empathy or sympathy you are again correct (also called no conscience). Sociopaths like people other than themselves but they often don’t respect others outside of their intimate circle. If you think that beating on folks for the thrill, perceived glory and money are not signs of a lack of “feeling” the pain you may inflict while doing this then you’re a *******.
Look if you want to kick your own ass (and others) for some sick thrill or for some other B.S. reason (like money) then you aren’t a TRUE MARTIAL ARTIST EITHER. In fact you could be an S&M loving, man butt-hugger. So watch how you talk to people who made no affront to you personally.
Neurosis is real. If you get a thrill out of getting hurt and hurting others for some illusory, contrived reason then you may be called out. This isn’t pop psychology, this is logical reasoning. For example, boxing is a legit sport, but it plays upon the basest of human emotions. It is a gratuitous show of sadism and it’s aim is to destroy what makes us unique in the animal kingdom; our brain. It is a destruction and loathing for humanity, as is rugby, American football and any other full contact sport. All of it is fake-machismo bull**** which feeds on testosterone fueled animalistic behavior.
So does this mean I refrain from peeping it? Hell no! I am fascinated at how many folks are followers versus leaders and how dumb ****s can get strong men to beat each other up so that some corporate **** can get rich. It’s ****in’ beautiful how peoples flaws can make even more flawed geeks lots of ducats.
So if you have your opinion about it all, obviously that you agree with it, then more power to you. I have my own opinion too, fool. I’ll watch you geniuses destroy the West a little more each day with your neurosis. It’s very entertaining.
BTW you’ve gotten a lot more confrontational since last I checked this site out. Increased aggression is always a sign of organic brain damage. Things that make you go “hmmmm”…
BTW you’ve gotten a lot more confrontational since last I checked this site out. Increased aggression is always a sign of organic brain damage. Things that make you go “hmmmm”…
No, I’ve always had a low tolerance for willful obtuseness and spectacular displays of fractured understanding. You are the latest to have exhibited those qualities which draw forth my ire.
And you are right, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. That does not, however make them insightful, nor does it make them correct. For instance, your assertions about high school wrestlers are largely baseless. You can point to no systematic studies to back them up, certainly, while anecdotal evidence strongly suggests that there is certainly nothing wrong with them to any greater degree than the regular population at large. This is the default position, that one sub-group won’t vary much in mental health, unless you can demonstrate otherwise.
Still, one, after all, may be entitled to their opinion that the world is shaped like a burrito.
re: sociopathy, I believe the term you may be looking for is anti-social disorder. And unless you can demonstrate that high school wrestlers - or any of the other people you choose to impugn - behave or exhibit symptoms of ASD or were abused in a statistically significant way, I’m afraid your point is a bit moot, pal. Your personal opinion that it takes somebody off their rocker to want to compete in a combat sport does not constitute evidence of that, since such activity falls well within the bounds of socially acceptable behavior and does not, by necessity constitute illegal or even immoral behavior. One might ride the slippery slope of competitive tendencies and conclude that Boggle competitors are socially dysfunctional, using your logic. [sarcasm] After all, winning at Boggle is nothing more than an ego-fuelled power trip designed to demonstrate the superiority of the person’s mental “muscles.” [/sarcasm]
Opinionated I am- stupid I am not
“Smart” people say “stupid” things all the time. Noam Chomsky comes immediately to mind.
Don’t worry. I’m not suggesting you are nearly as bright as he is. He certainly would have had his definitions and data in place.
Sorry… but I have to say, I die laughing when people post about how “real martial artists” don’t fight, don’t like fighting, play with flowers in the open field and sing songs to sooth the savage beast
Who the F#$%^^&&&# did you train with?
Before the strip mall kung fu school and the second coming of the David Carradine kung fu charade there was once a martial art called Kung FU and I can assure you, the masters back in China were NOT the pathetic, wishy washy, touchy feely, new age, pacifist, granold chomping pansies you want to make them out to be…
1.) as mentioned it is very hard to stay striking in a situation that has removed the artificial rules (sport rules, rules of style) to keep them from clinching. for those of you who have not done san shou or mma and you think "these guys aren;t very technical throwers like judoka.. try an uchimata when a left hook is coming in. and just the opposite, try to throw a leg kick when someone is rushing in at you to clinch. the truth is that everytime you take a foot off the ground you risk something.
2.) with the evolution of MMA has come an entertainment value and average joe is not impressed by ground strategy, he wants to see somebody ktfo. This means promoters are looking for entertaining fighters who will stand like rock 'em sock’em robots. if a bjj fighter wants to make it to the big shows he has to show at least some type of striking.
3.) rules are favoring strikers more and more. gloves to prohibit breaking hands, rounds, stopping fighters for periods of inactivity.. all favor the striker who can get a new start on his feet.
yet despite this grappling is still a more important aspect of fighting. I have to explain this to my students all the time. It’s pretty much near impossible to keep kicking range on a guy who wants to grapple with you at any cost. (he’s willing to risk a glancing shot coming in to clinch) so the best way to remain on your feet is to learn how to avoid the shoot, learn how to pummel and neck wrestle. - to be a better striker you have to be a better grappler.
There is very little “rolling around on the ground” in UFC cage fights, and the people who usualy end up on the bottom in most UFC matches have very poor ground games. The original poster sucks.
I’m the original poster. Maybe I over generalized with the “rolling around on the ground” comment but this thread has had two pages of well thought out discussion and your only comment is “The original poster sucks”. Lame dude, lame.
Nice post, I agree with all of your comments except for the one about it being too risky to throw a kick. I’ve seen some very successful kicks in the UFC. Including head kicks, knees, leg kicks and side kicks. The only problem is, they are few and far between. I would say that the typical UFC fighter relys too much on ground skills. Nothing wrong with this but I would also say that their stand up game is lacking leading to the no kicks, last man standing, slug fest.
Actually he said “try to throw a leg kick when someone is rushing in at you to clinch. the truth is that everytime you take a foot off the ground you risk something.”
Not exactly advocating kicking here is he? Almost making it sound “too risky”, isn’t he?
Eh. I only had enough time earlier to call you lame.
Most of the UFC fighters have some sort of highly evolved top ground game, or a highly evolved submission game, or very little game at all. Many fall into the category of gassed out and holding on.
There are just as many fighters who fall into highly evolved striking games and people who are just waaay out of their league.
The guys with highly evolved any-kind of game are the guys at the top.
I’ll have to rent some more of the videos. I just want to see some more well rounded fights. Even if the guys are gonna slug it out at the end then I at least want to see some more skill. Not just two guys swinging for the fences trying to knock the other guy out.
Chief, here’s what I tell my students: If your foot leaves the ground (knee or kick) you’d better make it worth while and cause serious pain or improve your position in the fight because it’s a risk and this ain’t a poker game…
F-ck you and Noam. He’s a broke Nietzsche and Nietzsche was a poor mans Kirkegaard. But to hel- with the existentialism. He holds nothing on true geniuses like Baruch de Spinoza or Frank Tipler. In fact I would go so far as to say his I.Q. isn’t even in the “bright” range.
BTW YOU geniuses have no memory. I’m no newbie to this forum and I’m no dolt. I am a medical professional who has done everything from CJJ/GJJ to Shorin Ryu. I know the real. I don’t need anyone to tell me what the difference between anti-social behavior and sociopathy is. The former is a behavioral trait of many sociopaths. Having sociopathic disorder is the same as antisocial personality trait. I know because my DSM says so, layman dumbfuc-!
Mary do you even have a B.S. in anything remotely related to science? I doubt it so shut your trap with the empirical methodology argument! You couldn’t even explain to me what a null hypothesis or two-tailed “t” test is. I also have a valid opinion based on my observational capabilities. I was raised fighting, watching hoods and fighers, befriending them and knowing real Gracies personally as well as others who fought for a living or for the thrill. The Gracies were by no means sociopaths, but many of the suckers doing that sport then and nowadays are, just like my friends who went to prison were. Many of them like to hurt and get hurt for money too. That says a lot about a group of people.
I am not trying to assail you with flowery language. I am giving you my opinion based on my reality. A lot of H.S. wrestlers and athletets are bullies, moreso than the percentage of the student body who are not wrestlers and athletes. Is there a study out there to corraborate this? You cats all went to or are in HS what do you think? As for numbers and studies. Who gives a flyin’ f-ck?! Anyone who knows about research, statistics/epidemiology, knows that numbers and studies can always be manipulated to prove a point. So stfu with the attempt to sound academic. As a true academician and medical professional, I can see through your attempt at perpetrating the intellectual. Stop while you’re behind, please. Nawmean?
It’s alright if you enjoy receivin’ and dishin’ an ass whuppin’. That’s very teutonic of you. Lets all make neurosis into a big money venture. OOPs already been/being done.
As for the rest of you flowery kung fools who now think because you saw the “Ultimate Fighter” for two years in a row and that it automatically makes you a squabbler— you’re sorely mistaken. Most of the supposed chuan fa you’re learning just won’t give you the proper foundation to ever be able to fight. Get real. Nowadays no one does the traditional; everyone is a MMAs expert! Hahahahaha! You ass pirates couldn’t fight off a cold let alone to save your scrawny asses. Anyway if you’re really a kung fu guy/gal, then why the f-ck you jockin’ MMAs? They ain’t jockin’ you *****es. Grow some overnight or something. Oh and quit posting on a TMA forum, go to Bittchsheedo or somein’…
Bandwagoneer, following never leading, fleeced sheep!!!
Either you can and always could fight, you joined a solid fighting art and got better, or you just can’t throw. That’s how that **** works, kiddies. Always has been like that and always will be, oblivious f-cks.
I see your point but along these same lines, every time you extend your arm you’re taking a risk. For that matter, everytime you shift your weight you’re taking a risk. Everytime you step in the ring you’re taking a risk. What I’m saying is, why not develop all of your tools so they can be thrown in an effective manner?
I’m sure that you know your sh!t and I’m sure that you have fine students but even in your comment above, it sounds like you’re making a case against kicking. I think you’re selling yourself short. Why not develop a solid offense that includes kicks?
be real, dude. The reason there is the assertion about kick risk is because your balance is compromised, whether the kick is high or low. That compromised balance is highly exploitable. To keep up with the game though, when you shift your weight, you are not necessarily taking a risk. take for example a right cross. When I rotate my body, my weight shifts. the key is to remain centered. Put too much weight on the front leg and it’s open season to have that legged chopped like a woodsman to a tree. If for some odd reason I shift my weight backward, I am more susceptible to a takedown. However, both of those are wrong. So, yes, you are at risk if you are using bad technique.
The same can be said of extending the arm to punch. If I OVER EXTEND, then yeah, I am at risk. But that would be my own, improperly trained fault. If I under extend, I make it easier for him to follow my fist back in.
