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[QUOTE=Shadow Skill;743851]nice dancing video.[/QUOTE]

http://feeds.slide.com/p/3/Sifu+Wilburt+Simms+and+Grand+Master+Henry+Poo+Yee?view=large

Bwhahaahahahaqaa… and you talk about dancing.

[QUOTE=hskwarrior;743837]
ask anyone who knows our school, in our school that was beginner sparring. we actually spar like that without gloves.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you can really tell these guys know about fighting :rolleyes: :

http://www.hlk.zoomshare.com/1.shtml/our20album

LOL @ the clueless guys who know absolutely nothing about fighting giving FP a hard time about posting a video where he is only allowed to do medium contact sparring.

I’ll be anxiously awaiting the “non-dancing” fighting video from No Skill and the tree-chopping, hard sparring with no equipment video from Pretend Warrior.

Oh , that’s right neither one of them has ever done anything close to contact fighting, so we won’t be seeing anything of that.

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yeah well jesus loves you

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[QUOTE=SevenStar;743847]evasion - sidestep, bob, weave, etc. When you must, parry and block. Nobody’s timing is perfect, and thus you will meet with direct force sometimes, but that’s fighting for ya.[/QUOTE]

Even in Taijij you must evade but I’m speaking specifically in terms of how you deal with an on-coming attack. Taiji is more about gaining control or setting up the opponent in an almost undetectable way before applying the counter. That is done by being “round” to the attack, ie not meeting the force directly as to be detected but rather redirecting to gain favorable position. Not a strategy specific to Taiji only but definitely a signature of of it.

[QUOTE=yutyeesam;743850]Fu-Pow,
Thanks for posting this. I could tell there wasn’t much CLF in your game, but that Sow Choy brought a smile to my face, especially when you threw it on command! Sorry to hear that you’ve quit CLF. In my opinion, CLF suits this arena better. I think CLF is more known for producing full contact ring fighters than Chen Taiji.[/quote]

In my experience I haven’t seen anyone allowed to use CLF in a tournament setting ( full contact is another story of course.) Thats why I focused on using really basic boxing techniques in this instance. You could see that as soon as I through that Sao Chui that the ref was on me.

CLF is a great art and I don’t regret the years that I spent learning it. I just decided that Chen Taiji held more potential for me and my body was starting to feel some negative effects from CLF. It may be in part because I’m a very large guy doing an art designed by much smaller people. It may be something inherent in CLF, I’m not sure but after some thought and some other factors that I won’t get into here I decided it was time to move on.

Was that Havick in your corner?

Yes and he was filming the video also. I won’t name him personally but Havick01 that posts occasionally on this forum was shooting the video.

Hope you come back to CLF one day. I’ve always appreciated your musings into the art.

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Thanks for your words, fortunately we’re still kung fu brothers on the Taiji side. :wink:

Also, Knifefighter you’re off my ignore list…you have been for sometime but I forgot to take you’re name off my sig.

FP

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fupow, clear your pm box

i wanted to send you a pm. plz pm me if you make space in your box. thanks

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LOL @ the clueless guys who know absolutely nothing about fighting giving FP a hard time about posting a video where he is only allowed to do medium contact sparring.

LOL at pretty much every non educated opinion you sling and mean dig you have taken on people in like 95% of your posts Knifefighter. I am sure to a lot of these guys you seem like a god over the internet, but to people that also fight a lot and have for a long time, its apparent you are either a troll or just one of those guys that learns things and gets in a rut and thinks that is all there is. Every talented fighter, in any MA I have met over the years that was a long time guy has had something in common that you seem to lack, the knowledge that they still dont know everything, they just know about their small specialized field and enjoy it.

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Oh and to make it clear, I am not standing up for any of those guys because I dont know their methods or history, etc. I am sure if they fight and practice realistically a lot then your comments sound just as ridiculous to them, if not, I guess that is their issue to deal with.

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[QUOTE=Golden Arms;743904]LOL at pretty much every non educated opinion you sling and mean dig you have taken on people in like 95 of your posts Knifefighter. I am sure to a lot of these guys you seem like a god over the internet, but to people that also fight a lot and have for a long time, its apparent you are either a troll or just one of those guys that learns things and gets in a rut and thinks that is all there is. Every talented fighter, in any MA I have met over the years that was a long time guy has had something in common that you seem to lack, the knowledge that they still dont know everything, they just know about their small specialized field and enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

Funny how of the few people here who actually do have significant fight experience usually agree with most of the things I say.

I’m still waiting to see your “fighting” clips… oh that’s right, like all the non-fighters who claim to fight, you only fight on the street where there is no video. Ineresting that, in this age of ubiquitous video, none of the “street fighters” have access to a single clip of them going at in in the gym with someone live in practice.

I’ve been training for 30 years. Still learning every time I train. I just don’t fall for the B.S. that’s so prevalent in TMA. Been around the block too many times for that.

What’s ironic is the TMA guys bashing a fellow TMA guy for posting a clip of himself going against another guy in competition (even if it wasn’t full out) when the closest they have is some folk dancing. I’m sure they are p1$$3d because he does more than just dance around like a dying bug.

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Interesting.

Thanks for posting that.

In terms of intensity, the average sparring at my MMA gym is many times harder than that, plus they allow harder shots to the head. I think that’s the first time I’ve actually ever seen that kind of tournament fighting before. Is it actually difficult to pull/stop/throw lighter, or do you get into the swing of it pretty soon? I guess some of our semi-contact sparring looks like that…

Some nice techs, even from a non-clf/taichi (well I’ve done three years of taichi but nothing special) PoV.

Couple of things though:

  1. There were some nice sweeps, but you said your ankles are still hurting… When we sweep we use the calf, the shin or the bottom of the foot: I’ve never had ankle damage from one even at full speed… in CLF is the point of contact the ankle or did you just mess up the angle at the time?

  2. Your opponent looked terrible! Not detracting from your performance at al, but did those spinning backfists and really fast combos affect you at all? They didn’t look rooted from a WMA or CMA PoV. And what about when he jumped and came at you with a load of fast pansy-looking kicks?

  3. Were you trying those sweeps as feelers or did you mean to take him down with every one? The one that got in was nice, but the others seemed tentative.

And completely irrelevant but:

  1. Why do you have Water Dragon on your ignore list? Just out of interest. He seems one of the least offensive people on the board (no offence WD! :smiley: )

Shadow Skill: since KF brought it up and you have that great pic ‘Mantis Duelling’ I’d keep out of the dancing gags if I were you! :smiley: That one’s priceless as it is.

HSKWarrior, I must have missed the bit where Fu-Pow said he wrote the rules… Like I said, it looked like light sparring to me too, but fair play, those were the rules he had to go by. And it seemed to me like he did sweep everything in the vicinity. Again, going relatively lightly I’m assuming he would have been warned for constantly sweeping the guy, and the one he got in was nice.

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[QUOTE=hskwarrior;743873]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0njKzlsE0[/QUOTE]

And to think you have the audacity (look it up) to give FP a hard time when you have a clip of B.S cr@p like that.

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That’s your basic run of the mill ‘medium’ contact level at most smaller kung fu tournaments. As you heard, the tournament officials in such events are most concerned with no injuries and will call you for anything excessive. It certainly can lead to delusions of grandeur but I don’t really think Fu-Pow is prone to that.

Thanks for posting, man. Only thing I’ll say is to keep your hands up on kicks and sweeps. You had a tendency to drop the back hand way behind you when you extended the front leg for something.

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wait…the ref kept calling ‘ajime’ (or however you spell that) …was it a karate tournament?

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good effort fp!

i only have two comments.

  1. sink a little more
  2. tell the greasy hippy to stop going in front of the camera! :stuck_out_tongue:
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Knifefighter, try checking up on who you are accusing of never having fought before. I have no idea how many fights you have had, nor do I care, just like everything else there are talented fighters and not so talented ones out there.

Try using the search function, I fight in San Shou, and have fought San Da, Kuoshu, Kickboxing, and even in some Kyokushin stuff over the last 8 or 9 years, as well as training traditional CMA, working with high school and college wrestlers, boxers, police, prison and jail guards, JJJ, sambo, MMA and whoever else wanted to work and sweat. I train ~ 30 hours a week and have maintained that schedule for 9 years now, and trained about 20 hours a week on average before that for years.

Like I said, I havent run into many people that act like you do, and usually they end up being one trick ponies or just dont act that way face to face. Why would they? To get good you have to have people to train with, and all the better if they dont move like you do or do your system. Until proven otherwise, you are just some guy who thinks he knows everything, which is generally a sign that a person has stagnated their own learning.

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[QUOTE=Golden Arms;744040]Knifefighter, try checking up on who you are accusing of never having fought before.
Try using the search function, [/QUOTE]

LOL @ the cryptic “use the search function to find out what a great fighter I am”. Bwhaahahaaaa.
Give me a break. If you are an accomplished fighter simply state who you are and give the events you have fought in… and links to the footage… somewhere… someplace.

I fight in San Shou, and have fought San Da, Kuoshu, Kickboxing, and even in some Kyokushin stuff over the last 8 or 9 years, as well as training traditional CMA, working with high school and college wrestlers, boxers, police, prison and jail guards, JJJ, sambo, MMA and whoever else wanted to work and sweat. I train ~ 30 hours a week and have maintained that schedule for 9 years now, and trained about 20 hours a week on average before that for years. .

Then there should be quite a bit of footage of you if what you are saying is, indeed, true. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to surface… bwhahahahahaaa.

Like I said, I havent run into many people that act like you do, and usually they end up being one trick ponies or just dont act that way face to face. Why would they?

Exactly… there’s no need to act like this face to face. When someone makes outrageous claims I simply say “show me”. Strangely enough, people rarely make the outrageous claims in person that they do here… and those that do usually can’t back it up.

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[QUOTE=David Jamieson;743925]good effort fp!

i only have two comments.

  1. sink a little more
  2. tell the greasy hippy to stop going in front of the camera! :p[/QUOTE]

LOL!..haha.

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[QUOTE=Oso;743922]wait…the ref kept calling ‘ajime’ (or however you spell that) …was it a karate tournament?[/QUOTE]

The ref might have been a karate guy but it was a tournament sponsored by a Hung Gar school. My one complaint about this tournament was enforcement of the rules about gloves (if they existed). In the second match which didn’t get recorded (or I’d post it as well) the guy was allowed to wear fingerless MMA type gloves. I only had my 14oz boxing gloves and there is a huge advantage to having lighter gloves like that. I think I would have lasted past the second round if I’d been allowed lighter gloves. There were 3, 3 minute rounds which was exhausting.

The 2nd place fighter (I got 3rd out of 5 competitors) started out with boxing gloves but on realizing that he could use MMA gloves he switched it up. Other than that the 1st and 2nd place fighters were really good…they went toe to toe for the full 3, 3 minute rounds… unfortunately they went home in worse shape than me!

FP

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i allways thouhgt it was kinda hard when you put gloves on and gear..people tend to start boxing …it just happens naturely…in kuntao.silat de.thaours
we never used any kind of gear ..so it was useing all your skill there realy was no rules ..i trained with the old teachers so they tend to be a little harder …not even pads on the floor ..some times we would be in a parking lot but the teachers would have some ointment there

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you can see a litte bit of training if you go to the web sight ..
sierra nevada internal arts ..masters on the mountain…iam in a few of those..you can see some of the old real teachers ..william de.thaours is allways there

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I heard the same things about that tourney, that is was kind of crazy in organization and that people sort of ended up hurt when they didnt have to be, but at least people got to have some fun and bang as well :slight_smile:

KF, sorry bro, I like to keep it lo-tech. I have lots of video on VHS, and some digitized too of myself and some of my fellow team mates, but I dont really have any need to put it up, or not be anonymous, this is the internet. Maybe you get some sort of sense of accomplishment from being on there, but I dont really. However, if you are ever in Seattle, let me know, I will happily meet up with you in person under friendly circumstances and cross hands or whatever, as will some of my buddies. I have a feeling you wont be such a d!ck once you are here in person.

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[QUOTE=msg;744069]i allways thouhgt it was kinda hard when you put gloves on and gear..people tend to start boxing ..[/QUOTE]

Boxing/kickboxing-type fighting is what happens anytime two more people use strikes to fight each other in a full contact situation. The more skilled someone is in real, unarmed fighting, the more their fighting will resemble this type of fighting… has nothing to do with whether or not hand protection is being used.