The Forbidden Fist of Bak Mei Kung Fu

The Forbidden Fist of Bak Mei Kungfu
Grandmaster “Fishmonger” Qiang and his Son, Zhong Luo

By Ching Hing Wah

The most notorious villain of kungfu is Bak Mei. Blamed for the greatest tragedy of kungfu history, legend tells us that Bak Mei was a Wu Dang priest who betrayed the southern Shaolin Temple to Manchu tyrants during the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911.) The temple was destroyed, the library burned and the monks killed. Actually, Bak Mei is a nickname that means “white eyebrow.” Due to the legendary Bak Mei’s nefarious legacy, white eyebrows are now the hallmark of evildoers in countless kungfu movies.

Despite this stigma, Bak Mei kungfu master Zhong Luo remains passionate about his family’s art. The son of Bak Mei Grandmaster Mai Yu Qiang, Luo comments on Bak Mei’s infamy. “During the Qing, before the war started, all the Shaolin temples collected people from all the different kungfu circles, and created their own tournaments. Basically they created their own little world. So the government got intimidated by all these different martial artists who stuck together - getting bigger and bigger - hundreds of thousands - getting too big. The truth is that during the Qing dynasty, 90 % of the army, the bodyguards and those who worked for the government and the emperor, were all Bak Mei style. They don’t realize that the reason those guys got hired was because they could really fight.”

“Unfortunately, a lot of people think Bak Mei is a traitor because they killed all the monks and burned all the temples - thousands dead. After that, the Bak Mei style disappeared for almost a whole century. The people were saying ‘Anybody who does Bak Mei, deserves to die.’ Their houses got burned down, their wives got killed, their children disappeared. People got revenge almost the whole century.” Bak Mei practitioners who fought to preserve their kungfu faced bitter hardships until very recently.

The Fighting Fishmonger
Today, Bak Mei Grandmaster Mai Yu Qiang is one of the most respected kungfu names in China. But like Bak Mei, Mai Yu Qiang is only a nickname. His real name is Luo Rong Qiang, born in 1938 in Futshan (Buddha Mountain,) Canton. His father, a Hung Gar master, passed away when he was only six, so Grandmaster Luo studied Hung Gar, Praying Mantis and other assorted styles with his eight uncles, each a kungfu master in his own right. In 1957, he began studying Long Ying (dragon form) the first of the two styles that he would eventually master, under Master Jun Gen. Then in 1960, he began his tutelage in Bak Mei, which his great grandfather had brought into his family fighting arts, under Master Lao Siu Leung.

During that time, the Luos were very poor like most of China. Grandmaster Luo cut fish at the wholesale market while his wife cooked for the employees of a big factory. Earning only a few dollars a month made raising two sons and a daughter very difficult, especially since Zhong Luo’s brother was a sickly child and required expensive treatments. So in order to make ends meet, Luo resorted to illegal no-holds-barred fights.

Luo organized underground open challenge matches at the market. What’s more, he jumped into the ring whenever he could. His son, Zhong Luo, remembers the stories. “If you win, all those wholesale store owners gave a 100 lbs. of rice or a couple chickens or a couple fish, whatever. Those markets were huge, bigger then three Home Depots! All these people from different cities came to pick up fish or rice wholesale, driving little 3-wheel bicycles to market, then to their shops to sell. Every morning, my dad went to market to pick up fish to sell. On and off, he was fighting there about 2 years - sometimes every weekend, sometimes every month, depending on how much injury he got. After that he would teach people to go fight too, and he had a lot of students.”

It was there that Grandmaster Luo earned his nickname Mai Yu Qiang (Fishmonger Qiang.) Selling fish for over half a century, he even won competitions for cutting fish. He is so skilled with a filet knife that he can gut a fish in six seconds flat. His son still keeps some of his father’s fish cutting awards. Even today, the Chinese press always calls him Mai Yu Qiang, seldom his real name.

But reputation can be double-edged. During the Cultural Revolution of the 60’s, the kungfu world suffered as did all of China. By 1972, the Red Guard caught Grandmaster Luo and threw him in prison for disturbing the peace, teaching people how to fight, and having connections to organized crime through his fight organizing. Many of his friends and fellow masters committed suicide in jail. Master Luo remembers being a little boy and visiting his father in prison in 1973. But incarceration did not break their spirit. In fact, Grandmaster Luo covertly taught his fellow prisoners so that when he was released in 1974, he had even more students - ex-cons - to help him teach.

In 1976, the next political event to influence today’s kungfu, China’s Open Door Policy, occurred. All across the nation, public kungfu schools opened their doors. Grandmaster Luo’s school began in his hometown in Canton, the nucleus of southern kungfu. It was a traditional kungfu school with no fees, just lucky red envelopes for the master during the holidays and the commitment to help out when necessary. Eventually, the school became well equipped with 30 sandbags for striking and dozens of rock buckets for finger jabbing training. Over 100 students were attending each night. By 1980, it was the biggest school in Futshan.

Recently, Grandmaster Luo received two of the highest honors for a kungfu master. During the celebrations for 50th anniversary of China last year, he was invited to Beijing to organize a phenomenal 80 lion performance. Luo is one of China’s top martial drummers with over 20 years experience. His drum was amplified to lead all 80 lions in one of the grandest lion dance performances ever held. Furthermore, in Hong Kong, he was invited to play at the opening ceremony for the new airport and the longest bridge in the world. On that historic occasion, there were no lions, just the grandmaster and his drum.

Bak Mei at E Mei
There is more to the Bak Mei legend than the popular Shaolin versus Wudang story. Shaolin and Wu Dang Temple descend from the venerated Mount Song and Mount Wu Dang respectively. But there is a third mountain famous for kungfu, Mount E Mei. Beyond the defeat of Shaolin, it was at E Mei Mountain where Bak Mei kungfu demonstrated its formidable power. There, early Bak Mei stylists studied kungfu from a Tibetan Lama when formalizing this style.

Master Luo retells the tale. “Every year, they (Bak Mei masters) beat everybody up in the E Mei mountain tournaments. The Lama Temple in E Mei is huge. It’s the biggest temple on that mountain. Inside, there were 4 or 5 different masters and they all have different loyal students. Everyone wanted to run the temple. The temple had money and reputation. Every year people go there, throw some money at the temple, burn incense, buy this, buy that. The Temple made a lot of money and they never paid rent. So they created a tournament. Whoever wins got the most power, more land, whatever. So for almost 20 years, the Bak Mei guys go in and kick people’s asses. They fought so many years and never lost. Soft styles, other styles, big circle styles, they all lose.”

“Most styles focus on defense. In Bak Mei the defense is to attack. The block is the punch. The defense is to go off and attack, way different from most other styles. It’s aggressive - a lot of striking and killing moves. After they won so many years, the Qing dynasty government wanted to kill all these martial artists, so they paid whoever they could. They hired a lot of Bak Mei style people to start a war with the kungfu circle. When the big war was going on, 90% got killed by the Bak Mei people, so the Bak Mei style got a huge reputation as a traitor style because they killed their own kungfu people. After that revolution died down, the Bak Mei style almost disappeared. That doesn’t mean nobody was studying and training – only that the people cannot tell others. If people knew you were training in this style, you would get killed. If someone’s grandmaster got killed by your style, and you’re Bak Mei, they come after you. So after 100 years, it comes back out.”

FIREHAWK

I read that in a magazine,forgot the name of it though,I belive his son has tatoos?
same guy??
BTW,I think you should have the title
as the forum’s Southern Kung-Fu serch engine. :wink:

Good Post Hawk thanx for the info~~

hak-ka pak mei

fire i won’t take much of your time.you definatly caught my eye with this post.your pak-mei knows of our pak-mei,yet you havent heard of hak-ka pak mei.the tournaments that are held today in HK,when hak-ka enter forms of ti-pu,guw pu chui,you guys loose with your sipp batt moor.so i don’t think you can back your words.[your reseach is from book not from hart].

TN,you 1 of andys student?good your k.f is crap too,just like limp gings,ask andy about my lineage and how powerful the hak-ka ging is.

limp ging.i have nothing against you.your web site is impressive[i don’t know you]i understand you,that your trying to earn a living.but idon’t have to agree with you do i?like i said your no threat.[i just thought you might of been].

Sui Fuw

do you know sifu andy troung? he is bak mei and you are too right!! so why you disrespecting your style for. i dont get it man…

im no threat to you thats good, but form demos are just that, when you fight its completely different. you havent got time to set up a stance or do a impressive form. just react!

the thing is sui fuw is im not trying to compete against anyone here, i teach and i have fun doing it. my students learn something and they are happy.

i dont have anything against you too, but i dont know why the insults for, to other sifu’s.

come & visit us!
http://home.iprimus.com.au/ykm
yaukungmun@hotmail.com

sui fuw

I did not write the article Ching Hing Wah Did.And i dont practice Pak Mei and i have herd of Hakka pak mei.sui fuw i think that you might be the sifu from the Caacma Pak mei website i have reed his articles and he sounds like you could be him.
sui fui are you the sifu from the Caacma Pak Mei website.People go read the Pak Mei articles on the Caacma websites this guy sounds like he could be sui fui.http://www.pakmei.net/default.htm

http://www.pakmei.net/articles/ARTICLES%201.htm

http://www.pakmei.net/articles/PAK%20MEI%20%20ARTICLES%201.htm

thats funny!

thanks firehawk. :smiley:

come & visit us!
http://home.iprimus.com.au/ykm
yaukungmun@hotmail.com

Sui Fuw

you said…

“TN,you 1 of andys student?good your k.f is crap too,just like limp gings,ask andy about my lineage and how powerful the hak-ka ging is”

You talking to me sweetheart??,I posted my teachers on my profile and where I live.
Hak-ka ging maybe good but I haven’t seen from you,just alot of trashing other ppl.

If you’re not a punk stop sounding like one.
OK,I’ll ask Andy how big your superman cape
is.
And BTW,My Sifu’s first Sifu was Ng Nam King,his
other being Cheng Beng-fatt.

Other than that,FIREHAWK keep up the good work on finding info

:wink:

[This message was edited by tnwingtsun on 04-23-01 at 03:01 AM.]

TN thats bull,there is no way you can take that lineage[no way]you haven’t seen sh*t from me? thats ok i’m not proving,if you can’t accept,fine.

fire,miss-read your post my appologies.and no i’m not that guy,however thanks for info,cause i made the connection with MD.

F.T,andy nothing to do with me.you don’t know why the insults to other ma’s?
can you remeber the thread on the difference between hak-ka and cantonese pak mei?

  1. we had fun
  2. no mercy
  3. those guys ran the show of bs
  4. you wher great,but then it went to your head,listen i had respect for you,but never the less was werey.now no problem,i think i know your intentions for humanity.

so,we are indifference.k.f is in termoil,i don’t want to be draged in.so what i’m trying to say you lot need to wake up and stop riding on some-one elses back[not just you F.T]there are to many poeple with" my line is from clc"or from “yip man” or"pak mei hands"etc when its all b/s

but then again i talk sh*t.

fire i looked at the web site and there another b/s no responssile club and they are white.no dis respect but you white are easy to con when it comes to the eastern arts.

Conning white boys

That’s very true. Those of us of caucasion extraction are easily conned concerning the Asian arts.

I wanted to earn 20 different multi-colored belts, win a bunch of cheap trophies, and open up a multi-national money scamming enterprise when I started kung fu, but only ended up becoming a good fighter. What a con!

“Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous.” – Confucius

This guy denegrates more demographic groups than the South Park movie!

Say, SF, you usually refer to me as MD, so what does this mean?
" however thanks for info,cause i made the connection with MD."

Sui-Fuw’s Top Ten Reasons Your Kung Fu is No Good

  1. You are white. Whites get conned. Never mind the Fulan Gong - there are probably no hakka members anyway.

  2. Your lineage is not good. Mike Tyson better find my teacher before people find out his boxing is no good.

  3. You tell people who your teacher is. When you do that, the come kick his butt, then your teacher is no good. If nobody knows, nobody can prove it.

  4. You are a female. Never mind the 500+ female entries in the Chinese National Skills Roster - they are men in drag.

  5. You have sex. Once you have kids, your kung fu is no good, so you can’t teach them anything. CLC and LYK did it via immaculate conception.

  6. You aren’t hakka. Only hakka know good kung fu. Doesn’t matter if you can trace 17 generations thru CLC’s village. You are not hakka.

  7. Your father at the age of 12 did not see CLC. Mine did.

  8. You don’t have hakka ging. Only hakka under my hakka teacher can get hakka ging.

  9. Your forms lose in competition, so you can’t fight.

  10. You can spell. Poeple who spell and read books obviously can’t have good kung fu.

“Waiting is bad.” - Musashi

yes most of that is true,through my eyes,some of it is that of what you wish,so that you can put me in a catagory.so sorry.whats up you don’t feel safe cause you can’t back it up?you already made your mind up about me,that i talk sh*t and my k.f is worst,so why post or react.i don’t complain or whine like a mule to you about the way i’m bieng treated,by certain members,do i? cause they are entitled to their own opinion.MD

WHY doesn’t anyone answer my direct questions on this board??? (I’m sure that one won’t get answered either.)

Say, SF, you usually refer to me as MD, so what does this mean?
" however thanks for info,cause i made the connection with MD."

“Waiting is bad.” - Musashi

medical doctor of course

But after all you still don’t reveal yourself or your sifu because you are just a TROLL with no credibility. Come on , put a photo of yourself on here and we can see for ourselves the immense power radiating from your arse because we all know your **** is awsome.

Damn it you’re going to show us all aren’t you.So what gives you such an “indepth” knowledge of FT? Are you just naturally gifted or maybe because you are closer than you’d like us to think heh! Trolls like you get found pal and you will be found out , don’t worry just keep talking, I like it when you do!

everything you say is true,there,problem solved.teach me now,show me.my k.f is crap please help me to understand.[i’m not joking]

is the couplet the only way to reach ging?or ttfc.i’ve heard there are many ways,is weights another one?please advise me as i want to learn.

Fire hawk–i read the same article a few months back. That Zhong Luo was a litte immuture–Jeff and Mike had some exchange sparring with him about three years ago in Califoria, that’s no big deal about this Bak Mei stuffs, both Jeff and Mike from Chris Chan’s Wing Chun lineage, by the way Zhong Luo married to Chris Chan’s student and mixed his Bak Mei with Wing Chun Dummy–that’s the last thing Chan’s student told me about this Bak Mei guy. Eddie Chong is another Bak Mei master from Califoria, he’s also a Wing Chun Sifu.