The Best Combination of Martial Arts

I’ve trained in the Korean martial art of Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan for 14 years, and I’ve delved into the following martial arts very superficially, but I think the best combination of martial arts would probably be:

Tang Soo Do - why? because of its devastating kicks, and sheer power and flexibility gained from training in it for a period of time - and it is more disciplined and focuses much more on the use of hand techniques than Tae Kwon Do. Advanced Tang Soo Do also incorporates some Southern and Northern style Kung-Fu.

Kung-Fu/Jeet Kune Do - why? the hand-work and use of double attacks at the same time, and the footwork involved is superior to most styles.

Capoeira - why? not for practical fighting maneuvers, but it greatly increases your upper body strength and flexibility and the acrobatic moves build up the legs and abs which enable you to do more powerful kicks when standing.

Jiu-Jitsu - ground-fighting is very necessary for practical purposes, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has proven itself to be the most viable in competition and on the street (more technique involved than wrestling and more practical than Judo or Akikdo).

What do you think?

Hi LeviathanX.

The ‘best’?

Anyways, kung fu and if you don’t incorporate it, some other martial art that teaches ground work. But overall, it is more one’s teacher and one’s overall capacity to dig down deep and maintain a well greased machine.

BJJ, for the defence while on your back

wrestling, for superior takedowns and excellent for controlling a downed opponent. and great for stand up control which can go hand in hand with good striking

boxing or thai boxing, hardcore striking.

I saw a photo of the man who originated Tang Soo Do performing what looked like Chen TaiChi.
He was on the ground doing the ‘kick with splits’ move.

If you shop around you get many versions of the basics. Stick with one all the way. They all end up looking the same at the high levels anyway. you have angles, circles and the human body. The more efficient you get the more it looks the same. Pick an art that offers joint locks, throwing, punching, kicking, and groundfighting. The lesser the style the more you will need to shop around when your training is done. Some blackbelts have to leave their styles to further their training which I think is sad.

Kwan Jang Nim Hwang Kee originated Tang Soo Do in 1947, and it is basically a combination of 60% Korean Tae Kyon (the traditional art that Tae Kwon Do was based on), 30% Northern Chinese martial arts, and 10% Southern Chinese martial arts.

At our school we also practice Hap Ki Do, which is basically Korean Jiu-Jitsu.

Mojo, do you happen to know where you saw that kick? Or could you describe it a little bit better?

Our most advanced traditonal aerial kick in Tang Soo Do is a flying split kick (two boards on each side broken simultaneously with a jumping inside-outside roundhouse kick, and a flying side kick). Of course, at demonstrations you see all sorts of crazy rising aerial moves.

I saw it in an old ‘Black Belt’ mag.
I’ll look around on the web to see if I can find a picture of the posture and post it.

I couldn’t find a picture so I’ll try to describe it.
Sit on the ground in a hurdlers stretch with your left leg straight in front of you, toes up, bottom of foot facing forward.
Your left fist is in front of you in an uppercut position, fist below chest level.
your right fist is held just above and behind your left ear, back of fist facing upward.
I hope you can picture this.

[This message has been edited by Mojo (edited 08-16-2000).]

I finally found a photo of the posture.

Now I’d like to see a picture of someone actually breaking 2 boards doing that in the air!

Favored combination arts?

Boxing (or Thai Boxing)+ BJJ (if nothing else, the boxing lets you close to takedown)

Akido + Jujitsu + Kendo + Kempo

Pentjak Silat + Pagua + Hsing-I (you get a kind of Kuntao)

Boxing + Hsing-I + Pressure-point system (pure evil at punching range)

I’d like to see where the Northern Shaolin is in Moo Duk Kwan. Total opposites, and most probably untrue.

Hwang Kee has even asdmitted that he learned out of a book while working for the Japanese in a train station in Manchuria. The book was a Japanese Karate book.

I wish the Korean stylists would just be more honest. Even Korean historians shake thier heads at the BS these teachers spread.

what’s the best combination of MA?
In my opinion:

For the handwork- boxing/wing chun.

For the kicks- any art that uses low stomp kicks, e.g. Wing Chun/Taijutsu etc.

For the grappling- BJJ/Judo/wrestling.

For the weapons- Taijutsu/Arnis.

For the ‘street’ moves- Taijitsu/Jujitsu

BJJ, Wrestling, and Muay Thai

i’d say tiger claw, preying mantis, hsing i, and tai chi - why? because I studeid them all!

seriously though, the best combo or arts is street fighting expereince - go to the bar and watch others fight, maybe do some bouncing. This is the best way to learn FAST! Maybe once you can fight, then learn some kick-ass kung fu to learn more.

Whatever combos are best for you.

I started with Karate, then Aikido and now a mixture of CMA. I like the praying mantis style of CMA so far because it mixes with my Aikido training a great deal and that is what I have the most experience in. I find CMA more friendly to improvisation and experimentation and tend to use techniques I’ve learned in those classes.
Someone has told me before that BJJ stuff is just the s#it and would be the ultimate. Same with many other styles.
I guess my point being it all depends on the person. How do you wish to fight? What is your body type? What is your attitude and philosophy of fighting? All of these questions can be answered differently by every person reading this, and so will be a personalized fighting system for that person.
Concentrate on what works for you, throw everything else out.

have any of you guys heard the saying
‘jack of all trades, master of none’
very apt for this ridiculous post.

actually sorry guys
if you’re that worried,better u combine 2 of my personal favorites-smith & wesson

Every martial art has a weakness. People cross train to minimize the holes in their styles. Intelligent fighters crosstrain. Those who don’t will lose.

mma fighter
BULLSHIT!!!
if you honestly believe that then there is something wrong with either your choise of
school or the way you train(try training harder)
as nothing but a vt man i have worked the door at many clubs(including what was my towns worst)for several years not to mention the nights i’ve just gone out 4 fun i’ve never been defeated(i’m not being rude or arrogant because i’m sure there are bucket loads of people who could defeat me)
‘there is no such thing as bad martial arts just bad martial artists’
every style is good it’s just that some are better & you only get out of them what you put in.