the man with integrity.very wise on your last post[worth listening to]you seem to be very suttle with your words,and,hey you stopped me from attacking m108.your k.f is second to none.Moq and cloud have exceptional k.f,you all have differnt ways though.pak mei+w/ch very interesting.iknow of 2 persons who have been given this task,1 is succeding the other may well succeed.can you pull it off?the power in your words may pull it off,but i’d like to experence it one day[when i find you]in physically that is[lap-sao,ti-sao i don’t mind.just no spectators]
i have a few questions to ask of you,however i don’t suppose you’ll answer.so i won’t push…
“Been Fa” in footwork does not make sense.
Why does it make you angry to see other people not giving respect to Kung Fu?
Without stability/root you would not be able to fly!!!
Paul,
Can you really seperate the mobility/stability?
Integraman,
Can you tell us why these old masters keep these details “conservatively”?
“REFINED” fighter. What do you mean exactly??
“stagnant” is this a term you have experienced???
Are you refering to Mantis when you say “proper body structure”?
You must be quite an accomplished M.A to study Xinyi.
Can you tell us why these old masters keep these details “conservatively”?
If you have one million dollar in ya pocket and a gun, will you tell somebody about it and pass the gun to him so that he can use the gun to extort the money from you? Maybe the mentality is different between the people in the west and people in the east must also be taken in account.
“REFINED” fighter. What do you mean exactly??
Someone who can apply the art instinctively following the principles and characteristics that determine the art form he has chosen. No overpowering opponent with crude techniques, brute strength. Always calm, possess mental clarity, good total body coordination, and etc.
“stagnant” is this a term you have experienced???
Does it matter if I have experienced such thing? We know that MA consists of various level and the practitioners have to experience “breakthrough” on each level. So stagnant arises when a person fails to breakthrough. AM I clear?
Are you refering to Mantis when you say “proper body structure”?
You meant to say am I refering to Mantis108 or the Praying Mantis systems? Why would I even refer to Mantis108? I was merely making a statement regarding the importance of developing a proper body structure that abides by the principles set upon by the boxing maxims.
I suppose we are not even taking about the same thing here (according to your secret admirer). So, whatever.
I am not angry and am not on a crusade. I am just having fun with technology and sharing with friends on KFO. The is a free world so interpret what you will. BTW, why is it when someone articulate their believes, it is persumed that they are angry? Over and out.
Well Mantis, there’s your lip service to kung fu. Small talk from small minds. I liked this place a LOT better when there were only 1,795 members.
Integraman, nice to see you back! How’s the weather? You were the only NYer to brave the blizzard of '00 in Flushing. Yeah, the rest of you know who you are. Tell “sui-fuw” you know this great hotel with a terrific place to “lap sau” out of the elements. 45 story balconies make wonderful judges.
Oh Mantis, I must comment upon an overlooked area: nice front leg alignment. It all starts with the posture and correct alignment of joint articulating surfaces.
Troll Wisdom of the Day:
It is better to keep one’s mouth shut and remain a fool than to open it up and remove all doubt.
Hey Meltdawn, what’s up? Good to hear from you I hope the weather will behave the next time you are here. How’s the quality of the weapons you bought from that shop? Hope to buy some for personal collections…
Sui Fuw,
Hey what going on bud? I overlooked ya earlier post, were you making comments on my writing? Good that you enjoy what I wrote.
Are you looking for me? Look no further as Meltdawn as given you a hint to whereabout I am. I am always interested in meeting up with fellow martial arts to learn from them. Would you be willing to show me a thing or two, erm… maybe a “lap sao” ? I enjoy being hit too (sadistic huh???) After that, we can go for a couple of beers. My treat!!!
Best of luck bud, feel free to ring me a bell if you are in the neighborhood
to mr integraman.sorry if i offended you on some other thread[i wasn’t aware].
truth.the reason i’m on this forum is down to you.
i was hoping that we wouldn’t hit each other,but that i could learn some things from myself[thats why no spectators.i also train with the elements,not against or shelterd from them[thats all.no detail]you see i presumed that you[integrman]“lap sao” not to win but to learn elements about your k.f[please correct if i’m wrong].i will find you with no clues[as they can be red herrings]if i can find a monk north of new territories i’m sure i can find you…
the post before,you were helping/advising m108
and alot of guys saw that except him.another truth i don’t respect anyone on this forum apart from MOQ,CLOUD and you.
why you,the thread on TTFC with m108.your suttleness and control[i have to treat you the same way or you’ll vanish]
don’t get me wrong i don’t want anything from you,accept to establish a connection.
[you show your 8 hands,i’ll show my 8 stances]
hope this makes sense if not sorry.
Md sorry can’t play,busy doing homework.go play skipping with your freind m108.yeah sorry don’t respect you either yet.
Integra, it is of great consternation (yes, look it up sui-fuw) that a one must offer to cross hands BEFORE the brewskis. I think a lobster dinner with Qingtao is a much more gratifying introduction, don’t you?
Don’t bother interesting yourself over this character; even thought his “father saw CLC when he was a young boy”, there has been no indication that he is more than an impotent instigator.
So when are you getting a job in my neck of the woods (hint hint)?
If you use and apply whatever knowledge is available to you at the time, you will be the best you can be. The old chinese masters didn’t have access to western style boxing, but if they did, I’m sure there would be kung fu styles incorporating all the effective elements of western style boxing.
I think if you reject something that is effective, and useful to you, you are denying yourself. The ‘style’ you train is alone good enough for you? Then you could still be a good fighter, but to be the best you can, you are not living up to your potential by ignoring resources.
It would not make any sense to me…
Bruce Lee wasn’t the first guy to think this way, Chinese masters have been doing it for centuries, where do you think the Style YOU train came from, someone designed it, and used the techniques HE preferred.
The old chinese masters didn’t have access to western style boxing, but if they did, I’m sure there would be kung fu styles incorporating all the effective elements of western style boxing.
You sure they don’t? I think they do. Masters in the late 19th century and 20th century have had encounters with western fighters, RUssian, Americans and Europeans i.e. people who came to China, thinking that those seemingly weak “masters” can’t fight and looked vulnerable and yet these masters won. One of Yip Man’s most famous student, the late Wong Shun Leung was a boxer and he learned from Yip Man after losing a match with Yip Man, Wang Xiang-zhai of the YiChuan fame fought Russians (just some examples)
No offense to you or your teacher, but I think it will be great if you can go and spend some time on your research before making any comments.
I am sure boxing has its own values. But you cannot just take everything that you think has its own values and integrate it into your existing styles. The old masters obviously spent many more hours than any of us here practicing and sharpening their skills under life and death situations. And if they themselves believe that they have many more years to go before they can understand the style they practiced, what about us???
And Sui Fuw,
if you are reading this message, just want to clarify one thing that you mentioned. I was not “advising” Mantis108 in my previous posts. I was MERELY stating my own opinions, my personal take on this.
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