i remember hearing from china a shaolin monk runaway banged up a bald lesbian, another guy married a white woman. i didnt think it was true but now i find out it really is true.
a lot of their students on the internet articles say its ok, they can eat meat and drink wine and bang women, but im confused. i think its dishonest to advertise yourself as a monk and not be a monk
i remember my hometown had a story that some shaolin monks came visiting yangzhou and gangbanged some prostitutes in the qing dynasty and there was sound coming from the house quack quack quack like a duck the entire neighborhood was laughing, so this problem goes way back, not just modern times
there is hypocracy in many other kung fu and martial arts. the hong men turned into gangsters. the black flag army helped fight the french in vietnam but then started robbing people.
not only did he marry a white woman, shes catholic :eek:
and they have a baby. but to be fair, he advertises himself as Ex Monk Li Peng, since he defected.
i also agree that its not right to advertise something that is not right. this also comes down to the mis truths many people have been a victim of in regards to regular martial arts teachers.
the monks were allowed to eat meat under the pretence that they needed the nutrition from meat to be able to actually fight on a regular basis, healing and having the proteins etc… i believe this was part of the reason they became allowed to eat meat. wasnt it an emporial decree or something?
[QUOTE=Lucas;968780]not only did he marry a white woman, shes catholic :eek:
and they have a baby. but to be fair, he advertises himself as Ex Monk Li Peng, since he defected.
i also agree that its not right to advertise something that is not right. this also comes down to the mis truths many people have been a victim of in regards to regular martial arts teachers.
the monks were allowed to eat meat under the pretence that they needed the nutrition from meat to be able to actually fight on a regular basis, healing and having the proteins etc… i believe this was part of the reason they became allowed to eat meat. wasnt it an emporial decree or something?[/QUOTE]
lol at the Emperor calling the monks hippies and telling them to eat red meat and beer like a Canadian red neck trucker to beef up for the strength of the nation…
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the monks were allowed to eat meat under the pretence that they needed the nutrition from meat to be able to actually fight on a regular basis, healing and having the proteins etc… i believe this was part of the reason they became allowed to eat meat. wasnt it an emporial decree or something?[/QUOTE]
no
thats from the movie shaolin temple starring jet li. shaolin monks never saved the tang emperor
in order to appease the warlord li shimin the shaolin monks ambushed and killed a rival warlord m in order to gain political favours with him.
li shiming had a signature on a rock but i never heard of him saying shaolin monks can eat meat
imperial order in song dynasty is if a soldier gets injured during training he is awarded 10 pounds of tofu
in the end of ming dynasty the rebel hero li zhicheng completely destroyed the guards at shaolin temple
if shaolin temple guards were killed by farmers then you have to wonder how good shaolin kung fu really is, is it truth or lie
after meeting many people who do northern kung fu i dont see anything unique about shaolin kung fu other than combining chan buddhism with martial arts. if you abandon the chan buddhism i dont see anything good about shaolin kung fu
my opninio is ok, you dont believe in buddhism, but you cant fight either, and your form comes from nearby villages and is common northern kung fu, i dont see any value to what is remained of shaolin kung fu
if you look at the painting at bai yi tang at shaolin, it shows shaolin monks sparringvfrom very recent qing dynasty
you see almost everybody with small stances and small punches
people wrestling
when you see people kicking its always below the waist
very few people using wide stances and big punches
it look nothing like the shaolin kung fu today
if they still train like that by themselves then they are scamming thousands of western students worldwide, teaching wrong forms and sanda
if your shaolin kung fu is nothing like the original one, you cant fight, you dont believe in chan buddhism, how are you shaolin
i remember hearing from china a shaolin monk runaway banged up a bald lesbian, another guy married a white woman. i didnt think it was true but now i find out it really is true.
a lot of their students on the internet articles say its ok, they can eat meat and drink wine and bang women, but im confused. i think its dishonest to advertise yourself as a monk and not be a monk
i remember my hometown had a story that some shaolin monks came visiting yangzhou and gangbanged some prostitutes in the qing dynasty and there was sound coming from the house quack quack quack like a duck the entire neighborhood was laughing, so this problem goes way back, not just modern times
there is hypocracy in many other kung fu and martial arts. the hong men turned into gangsters. the black flag army helped fight the french in vietnam but then started robbing people.
lets discuss this problem pls[/QUOTE]
Who gives a s*. Archaic belief systems related to sex and what you should or should not eat should be left behind in the past, where they belong.
Human nature is what it is and you are what you are. You can only change it so much.
These beliefs only give way to prejudice and elitism.
Unless someone can explain the science behind how or why you shouldn’t do this, or that, to be a “Monk”.
Which’ll be difficult cause there isn’t any.
Its time to update our belief systems with modern day science and understanding of human psychology.
i remember hearing from china a shaolin monk runaway banged up a bald lesbian, another guy married a white woman. i didnt think it was true but now i find out it really is true.
a lot of their students on the internet articles say its ok, they can eat meat and drink wine and bang women, but im confused. i think its dishonest to advertise yourself as a monk and not be a monk
i remember my hometown had a story that some shaolin monks came visiting yangzhou and gangbanged some prostitutes in the qing dynasty and there was sound coming from the house quack quack quack like a duck the entire neighborhood was laughing, so this problem goes way back, not just modern times
there is hypocracy in many other kung fu and martial arts. the hong men turned into gangsters. the black flag army helped fight the french in vietnam but then started robbing people.
lets discuss this problem pls[/QUOTE]
So who was quacking, the monks or the prostitutes?
On one hand, I agree that if someone claims to be something, he/she should represent what they claim to be.
On the other hand, I agree with AdrianK that you can’t change human nature, esp. regarding the sex drive, one of the strongest. I personally cannot see how a forced lifelong celibacy helps one to become more spiritually enlightened. Maybe a few have achieved it, but in most cases, repression creates obsession.
a shaolin is not required to remain celibate… nor are they to refrain from eating meat, drinking wine(beer) or growing their hair long - the hypocrisy is in the promoted tourist version of the shaolin.
nah the hypocrisy is that people actually believe the crap that is stated about them. In reality we will never actually know much about them because of all the misinformation that is out there.
The day people stop believing in fairy tales such as organized religion will be a true day of peace and tranquility the world over. Unfortunately, the past 25,000 years has proven that no matter how much we evolve intellectually, we hang on to dated traditions that not only make no sense, but take away the pure essence of what being human is all about. In other words, never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;968834]The day people stop believing in fairy tales such as organized religion will be a true day of peace and tranquility the world over.[/QUOTE]
Can I get an Ah-men? Oh, wait…
[QUOTE=uki;968824]a shaolin is not required to remain celibate… nor are they to refrain from eating meat, drinking wine(beer) or growing their hair long - the hypocrisy is in the promoted tourist version of the shaolin. :)[/QUOTE]
I think that you should start an Uki Temple at your crib…
I don’t have a problem with these “monks” banging chicks or getting loaded, eating meat or playing XBOX. I have a problem with them being full of ****.
A monk visited my master a few years back, threw his prayer beads in the corner before demonstrating like it was a dirty old hat. In these magazines, in articles and advertisements, you see these kooks standing ontop of pagodas posing. Could they have any less respect? Their entire identity – holy man/warrior – is a lie.
Nothing is sacred anymore. Thank God their are still great men and martial artists out there who live quietly. Their actions are an example to others. No need for self promotion. And their luxuries remain private.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;968834]The day people stop believing in fairy tales such as organized religion will be a true day of peace and tranquility the world over. [/QUOTE]
like communism.
they took my grandfathers boat and all our gold. my precious gold
[QUOTE=Ray Pina;968843]I don’t have a problem with these “monks” banging chicks or getting loaded, eating meat or playing XBOX. I have a problem with them being full of ****.
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hi, i do have a problem because of hypocrisy, theyre supposed to represent the best in kung fu. what happened to martial virtue “wu de”. its more like “wu de” no virtue (they sound the saem)
i think the big cities swallowed them
i feel scammed because shaolin kung fu was never really famous in the past, its onnly because of the jet li movie combined with people just coming off the cultural revolution
[QUOTE=bawang;968844]hi, i do have a problem because of hypocrisy, theyre supposed to represent the best in kung fu. what happened to martial virtue “wu de”. its more like “wu de” no virtue (they sound the saem)
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Many people like to speak of honor, morality, etc -when it suits their needs.
