the war of the styles continues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UvoxVzgy_s&search=karate
tai chi sv shui chiao:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7360397892170796596&q=taiji
What’s Taikiken? Is it that new agey looking TKD offshoot?
Taikiken… wtf is that? there is some decent karate in that clip though.
“Taikiken” to my understanding is the term “Taijiquan” in Japanese.
Interesting clip though, anyone know who these guys are?
It looked like they’ve never seen combat before… the shuai jiao vs. taijiquan was fun though.
man they always seem to get the good karate guys vs the kung fu guys that try to fight like they do in the movie.
Taikiken is a Japanese offshoot of Yiquan. Not sure as to the literal translation.
what the h@ll kinda of kung fu was that.
Greetings,
Firstly, those Taikiken guys are not seasoned fighters.
Secondly, Taikiken has such respect from from Kyukushin, that many of their guys train it.
This is more of the Kyokushin hype that was started in “Fighting Black Kings.”
By the way, Sawaii and Oyama were friends.
mickey
Sawaii was the sitting old guy in those clips. Karate called him and his boys out.
the kung fu in those videos made me want to cry. stupid hippy dance bull****. if you took a guy who’s never done anything but get ****ing shadow boxing and threw him in the ring you’d get the same results.
the karate dude seemed good though.
Firstly, those Taikiken guys are not seasoned fighters.
ok i missed that, but still … how seasoned do you have to be to root to the ground and make some attempt at throwing a decent punch. taichi is all about rooting which the karate guy seemed to have a much better understanding of.
i can certainly see unseasoned guys getting whacked upside the head from an inexperienced guard and id not fault them for it … everyone’s gotta learn … but their offence seemed really really weak as well.
GDA
i fully agree with you dude, they look like they were trying to do sum sort of JKD, when the karate guy threw a bit of a punch at them,
im fully crying, 
why cant they put on a seasoned kung fu practiconer, arghhh
CR*P like this gets me so FRUSTRATED,
arghhhhh
Greetings,
I believe when you put a fighter with experience against a “scrub” you can get similar, embarassing, results–regardless of style.
Again, there are Kyokushin fighters that seriously train Taikiken. It must have value beyond the standing for them to want to learn it.
GDA, that is not taichi. The art is referred to as I Chuan. It was developed by Wang Shiang Chai. From what I have read, it is a sublimate art of Hsing Yi.
mickey
i hear ya mikey … im not dissin taikiken as i’ve never even heard of it i just wish the vids of kung fu guys looking even reasonably decent vs vids like that werent so horribly out of ballance.
Very cool. I wonder if YouKnowWho will comment on this, he’s always ripping on Tai Chi.
If I remember correctly, Taikiken’s kanji is ultimate “qi” fist. It’s a Japanese offshot of YiQuan ( DaChengQuan ), YiQuan is an offshot of XingYiQuan. It has nothing to do with TaiJiQuan.
the karate guys always seem good in these video clips.
The characters at the bottom of the screen say Tai Gik Kuen (Cantonese), Tai Chi Chuan/TaiJiQuan (Mandarin), Tai Ki Ken (Japanese). So basically Tai Chi people fighting against Kyokushinkai. Some one sais the Karate fighter weren’t seasoned. Maybe not in the professional sense. But to attain a Blace Belt in Kyokushinkai you have fought bare knuckle many times.
Phil
Correct. The -absolute- best thing about Kyokushin is the immediate feedback we get. If you’re not on your game, you find out real fast. Everyone spars, knockdown rules. By the time someone gets to Shodan, they are really good, really tough, or both.
I switched over from Shotokan (was a Shodan). A whole 'nother world…