[QUOTE=TaiChiBob;715939]Greetings..
Don’t confuse the “Forms” with Taiji.. forms are only tools that teach us Taiji..
Be well..[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY!
true dat…
remember that Wikipedia isn’t really official in anything…anyone can add to the content…but it is a start with the forms…
Wikipedia
Yeah, Wikipedia is a good place to start researching something, but you’ll have to verify anything you find there from outside sources.
I’ve been finding some pretty decent videos of old masters doing different forms on Youtube recently…
I’m also in agreement with Taichibob that doing forms isn’t the same as doing Taijiquan. If you haven’t gotten to the 4 taels to move a thousand catties point yet, forms (and pushing hands) are still just basic training. If you have, though, your forms will be works of art.
I guess it took untill today to be bored enough to comment on Taichibob’s comment.
Yeah.
The thread was about different styles of Taiji. “forms” =/= “styles”. One style has many forms and anyways he was talking about something more basic than that so whatever.
p.s.
No need to talk about “taels”. It’s ridiculously antiquated and obscure terminology. “ounces” works just fine. The original word in Chinese is “liang” anyways and today, one “liang” equals 50 grams. I’m not sure how close that is to an ounce but my point is that the exact terms aren’t important so you might as well use a word everyone knows.
Hold on…
Just looked it up on http://www.onlineconversions.com/weight.php
The original text is “4 liang deflects 500 kg.”
10 liang = .5 kg.
1 liang = .05 kg = 50 grams.
4 liang = 200 grams = 7 ounces (rougly)
1000 “jin” = 500 kg. =
So the traditional translation of “4 oz. deflects 1000 lbs.” is wrong. It should read “7 oz. deflects 1102 lbs”. . . . . 
So like, just use words that make sense.
4 ounces deflect 1000 pounds.
Well…that was fun. Also goes to show how stupid overly precise translations can be.
28 grams per ounce
14 grams per half ounce
7 grams to the quarter
3.5 per eighth
1 gram to the 20 sack:D
[QUOTE=abc;714335]Hi,
which is the best website for me to know that there are how many types of forms and style out there as I know there are a lot of commons and some uncommons 1. I would love to know the origin of each of the style too.
Thanks :)[/QUOTE]
hi abc,
here are a few things for you.
-in my understanding tai chi chuan is a set of concepts and the various styles such as yang or chen etc. and all of their variations are different teachers understanding and manifestations of these concepts.
take yang and chen for example and have 2 people doing them side by side. the postures will look different even the ones with the same names but the core concepts are still there.
-2 forums the many tai chi chuan teacher and students post on … you can ask lots of questions …
http://www.emptyflower.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi#xing
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/TCClist/
-some interesting sites. i hope you note how different each teacher is. they are all doing tai chi chuan with their own understanding. some may be able to fight, some might just talk about fight and some may talk only about health and some may be bs.
http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/index.html (one of my favs)
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/styles.html
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/
http://www.taijiworld.com/
http://www.williamccchen.com/
http://www.shenwu.com/taichi.htm
http://www.yangfamilytaichi.com/
http://www.chenxiaowang.com/
http://www.truetaichi.com/true-links.htm
http://www.suntaichi.com/news.html
http://www.wustyle.com/en/index.html
-as stated before. google, the modern day oracal. you can find hundreds of versions of the history of tai chi chuan. you will have to connect the dots and see which one you think is true.
Thanks for sharing your list of collection about taijiquan 
wudang taiji
i will introduce the wudang taiji:
Wudang Taiji Quan highly stresses the fullness of internal energy, breath, and spirit. The eight criteria that Wudang Taijiquan stresses when playing are; lightness, easiness, roundness, evenness, flexibility, changeableness, steadiness and precision. The motto for practice is: to be relaxed, complete, prompt, and sudden. The peculiar principles of Wudang Taiji are to be hard and strong inside, round and smooth outside and to strike out quickly, quick enough so the opponent does not notice. Move like waves of the Yangzi River flowing to the ocean, one after another, never stopping.
[QUOTE=B-Rad;715222]"…the 108 is the Yang long form (also sometimes counted as 103 or 85).[/QUOTE]
You are undoubtedly referring to Master Yang Cheng-Fu’s Form Set, which he officially published as Yang Style Modified Large Frame 85 Forms Set. This is the Official Yang Style Form Set taught by the current Yang Family Masters. It is a modification and abbreviation of the Old Yang Style Large Frame Long Imperial 108 Forms Set created by Yang Style Founder, Yang Lu-Chan, for instruction to the Imperial Prince.
Some practitioners and teachers of Cheng-Fu’s Modified Set created some confusion after his death by renumbering the 85 Forms Set to 108 Forms. This led many people to believe that what these teachers were offering was the older Long Imperial 108 Forms Set, when in fact it is not. It is different both in content and in its siganture manner of performance, emphasizing health and self-cultivation benefits, rather than boxing skills like the older style.
Such renumbering may have been a marketing strategy of sorts, since the Old Yang Style 108 Set was associated with the martial art fame of Yang Cheng-Fu’s earlier Yang Family relatives…namely Yang Lu-Chan (Grandfather/Founder), Yang Pan-Hou (Uncle), Yang Chien-Hou (Father), and Yang Shao-Hou (Older Brother). In any event, it is incorrect to call Yang Cheng-Fu’s Set the 108 Long Form, IMO.
Doc
Thanks for the clarification/background on the numbering discrepancy. Glad to learn something from a 2 year old thread resurrected by a wudang business spammer 
The 13 Form/postures today are mainly 13 postures put together to make/equal 13 postures and that means 10 different teachers will have 10 different postures strung together!
The ‘Older’ variation of 13 “postures” refers to pen lu ji an etc and their respective actions and that is more involved.
Keep in mind that historical Chen family style, from which all major styles come from do have variation os 13 "forms’ ‘postures’ etc per style/variation despite coming from a Chen source!!!
Since it’s the first that’s kind of expected, isn’t it?