Stick fight video

Wai Jia: The Kung Fu Forum Wing Chun
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Hey ,
guys and gals
just put up a 25 meg video of one of my friends/training partner
who competed in his first stick fight comp.
Robert Kincaid ,
he has been working with sticks and just about everything else for along time but never really wanted to compete . on a whim he got involved with this group and he placed 1st in double stick
2nd in single stick and 2nd in team
he went toe to toe with a guy ranked second in the world , and it came down to a split decision . [ I’ll put that fight up next month ]

just wanted to share this with some friends if your not into stick fights please don’t down load it . the file is huge and it will eat up my bandwidth
if your into seeing highly developed attributes then by all means watch it .
Robert is also coaching a k-1 guy he has trained navy seals and is just as skilled on the ground and in trapping ,

this file will only be up for a day or two or if it gets downloaded to much . it will have to pull it

the reason I’m sharing it is because you will see what foot work and the ability to control distance can achieve , sure it’s just a padded stick match not a real fight , but watch the way Robert moves .

the guy he is fighting in this clip is a traditional Filipino martial arts teacher from the Philippines , this is what the man does and how he expresses his art

were rob on the other hand is just doing one of the many things he does , yet look at what conditioning, timing , speed , power and distance can do

go to my web site wingchuncoach.com go to the video section it’s at the bottom ,

-------- edit------------------------------------------------------------------Well folks I’m done for now 5 gigs in less then 24 hours ‘’ ouch ‘’ I removed the single stick finals and put up the last clip a small clip of the team finals rob is the guy in the black helmet bombing right crosses into the other guys head, this one is real fast since it was just a one round thing, Rob’s coach said no footwork just get in and blast.
Hope you guys have enjoyed the video clips it was fun to share them with you all
In case you missed any of them single stick / single stick finals / double stick finals / team finals
And want a copy email me and we can work it out, and to those that asked me for the .mov files I haven’t forgot about you I’ll email you when there ready
Thanks again everybody and train hard

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Ernie,

Get ready for your bandwith to take a beating.:smiley:
Thanks for sharing.

Bill

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The video did not do justice to the ballistic energy that I feel from Rob when he moves. Thanks for the preview of Star Wars - The Rob chapter. =)

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Ernie

I see what you mean.

What were the rules in that comp as far as scoring points? Any targets worth more than others?

Red guy wasn’t as quick or as conditioned as your buddy.

Lastly, you may want to edit out everything that is not “action” to help your filesize/bandwidth concerns :slight_smile:

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paul

the rules would not let robert ''express himself ‘’ as we know he can ha ha

shadowbpxer
points were scored [ which sucks i hate point systems ] on a hit anywhere above the knee’s
but you couldn’t hit the same place more then twice

he got introuble for breaking the stick on the guys head on the first move

for to much power ,

they guy he fought has won stick comp’s before and was supposed to come in at least second ,

but Rob just makes every one look bad

in the finals were he fights the guy ranked 2nd in the world
he made that dude look real bad but they guy understood how to pile up points with little taps so he won . he knew the game

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Originally posted by Ernie
but Rob just makes every one look bad
I can see why. Great skills.

Originally posted by Ernie
in the finals were he fights the guy ranked 2nd in the world
he made that dude look real bad but they guy understood how to pile up points with little taps so he won . he knew the game
Yeah. I’ve seen that kind of garbage go on before. Enough said.

Bill

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edit ---- removed link

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Ernie,

By the way, Great site.
I really enjoyed the Sifu Lam videos. :cool:

Bill

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Thanks Ernie. As a suggestion, would it be better to adopt the fencing system of competition where electronic sensors are used to detect the contacts? The fight need not end straight away but at least the contacts can be accurately detected/recorded. Also, it would be nice to see attacks by hands and feet when openings are presented.

Just my suggestions. Again, thanks for sharing.

:cool:

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update removed the first fight and posted the double stick finals
not as flashy as the first but some good moments , he won first place for this one

i’m working on the single stick finals were he lost but it is a great fight [ well stick fight =) ]

my bandwidth is getting hammered so i will pull all the files of soon ,

matrix
Ernie,

By the way, Great site.
I really enjoyed the Sifu Lam videos

he thank you man , yep gary is something else , between him and rob and the hawkins drop ins my hands are full , but i wouldn’t change a thing :smiley:

Alan ,
thanks for the thoughts but honestly these comp’s are not what were into street fighting and developing attributes that cross all bounderies , the thread that binds the most effecient body mechanic in a combative element , is our only reason for training , this type of padded stick game is just a plce to investigate and experiement , could just as easily be a boxing ring , chi sau session or what ever , i do like the stress overload of getting bombed on by a stick like a friggen blender , and attempting to see and feel and maintain a calm center

just another tool man

:smiley:

p.s. the link is the same for the new video

and i’m glad you guys are enjoying it , it’s fun to share this stuff , most people seem so all strange about putting themselves out there , never understood that

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Good stuff ernie

Just watched the vid- nice moves. Liked the slo mo replays

If I ever get a digital camera and some tech knowledge I might put some clips of me up:)

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Nice, Ernie. Thanks for sharing them.

Regards,

  • kj
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Hey Ernie,

Stick fighting is kind of cool. Its nice and fast which sharpens ones attributes. I had an experience with stick fighting once that I still think back and smile about! BTW! I am no stick fighter and am not claiming to be one!

One of my good buddies is a JKD/Filipino guy. We used to meet up and he fought full contact in the mother land of where his Guru is from. I believe his name was Dong and he was a full contact Champ over there. Super guy!

Well, I visited a seminar he was teaching and they were all in gear and sparing etc.. I said, Lets give it a try! It cant hurt that bad as they had the Hockey gloves and metal helmets etc.. Got in the ring and went wild! What a blast. I especially liked the in-fighting! I was also happy that I was fast enough to get some shots in but he was also beign nice to me I think!

Anyway! It was a good experience and getting in the ring to mix it up was great! Unless you mix it up at full speed/power you cant tell what you can do and that goes for everything! We all have to go thru that phase or a rude awakening will be coming for those who never been hit (or hit someone) and had to conintue!

Regards,

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updated video stick finals

Here are the single stick finals,
Rob lost this match but man it was fun to watch, the guy he fought was a much bigger and more skilled stick guy, he has been competing for 9 years and is ranked 2nd in the world at this time [not sure how the whole ranking thing works] this is in the heavy weight division, they guy is in the low to mid 200, and Rob tips the scales at 175

Rob is my size 5’11’’ and this other dude is like 6’4’’

Give or take an inch

Rob lost on a split decision and been competing in other fights [his conditioning is not human]

This is what I want to point out, how Robs foot work just lets him bomb from long range he is [Robert Ali] in this clip we have been making fun of him since =)

The big guy tries to use stillness to handle Roberts speed [a wing chun tactic] yet Roberts attributes are just to highly developed and he still nails the guy over and over again

But this big guy has juice he lays into rob with some good ones

Well that’s my commentary have fun

Jim,
Man I’m glad you had fun, the stick stuff is just a game and you can go all out and let yourself go with out killing anyone [except for your self sucking wind and getting emotionally drained]
The pads save you, but if there are no pads the game is a little on the painful side

But you get to spend time experiencing how you react to such speed and stress overload, it’s a great tool to dial in your reactions and sensitivity
But it’s just one of many tools out there, I don’ see it as a fighting system so much as a different version of training attributes
But I’m glad you enjoyed the clips, a few minutes of entertainment in a long day

Kj
No problem girl, feel free to comment you have a good eye

Nick,
Long time no speak man ha ha, heard from your boy kev bell, he rang me up yesterday out the blue, nice bloke ha ha

I got 3 more clips to drop and then I’m done ‘’ for now ‘’

These will only be up for about a day so get them if you want them …

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Re: updated video stick finals

Originally posted by Ernie
I got 3 more clips to drop and then I’m done ‘’ for now ‘’
These will only be up for about a day so get them if you want them …
Keep 'em coming Ernie. Operators are standing by. :smiley:

I think it’s funny that Rob got nailed for “too much power” in an earlier match. Several times, the big guy looked like he was trying to hit one out the park. Regardless, the action was fast and furious.

Thanks again,
Bill

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matrix
[[ think it’s funny that Rob got nailed for “too much power” in an earlier match. Several times, the big guy looked like he was trying to hit one out the park. Regardless, the action was fast and furious. ]]

later after the match the big guy told rob he had not ever seen some move like rob does so the power was out of frustration , plus he was allready set to go to the philpines to fight later in the month if he lost wouldn’t look good

infact the judges all took rob out to dinner and tried to figure him out and talk him into going to the world events , rob just laughed since this was just a little experiment to see where his training had taken him .

man if i ever get any footage of this dude sparring hands and feet or even chi sau stuff you would really trip , but he hates getting filmed
:smiley:

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Hi Ernie- Great video. Great action and contrasts in strategy.Thanks for sharing.
Joy

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Hi Ernie- Great video. Great action and contrasts in strategy.Thanks for sharing.
Joy

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hey ,
thank you very much joy i thought for sure you would harp me for this stuff ha ha ,
but then again you do like a good boxing match and rob boxes with the sticks ,

joy ,
i am glad you watched , these are the types of guys i have been trying to pull my wing chun off against since my first pak sau,
i’m not dealing with the norm , so my views are geared towards surviving these guys ,
trust me then i tell you there sensitivity and speed and power are very advanced ,

no try and be this little ole wing chun beginer that i was back in the day and mix it up with with a guy like rob ,
it was very tough ,

but now years later the gap is not so far apart and i completly owe that to my wing chun training , it helped me make sense of it all and short cut things i didn’t need , now i can play with the rob’s out there , still get my head handed to me but i’m in the game and seeking wing chun answers for the problems

this is the path that picked me bro
just trying to stay honest with it

but thaks again for chimeing in it was a unexcpected pleasure

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Hi Ernie-
Understood. I like all kinds of action though I tend to see them through wing chun eyes.
Good fast action match and a match of strategies.
Your friend was faster and mobile- the other fellow was no slouch
in timing against speed.
Thanks again for sharing the good action..

Joy