So who watched the debate last night?

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Who cares who your leader declares their fairy guardian to be and who is there intercessor to access that fairy?

It is indicative of weak, chaotic minds to resort to arguing about fantasy and religion instead of sticking to the issues.

My rights or desires do not supersede your rights.
Compromises MUST be made to have continued peace and people need to accept that they are not entitled to do whatever it is they like because many of those bring disharmony and actual harm to others.

So, was music banned in central park? NO. It was asked that people behave considerately and play in designated areas that allow for others to not be disturbed.

Seems to make perfect sense in a metropolis like new york.

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[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1104849]I disagree he does. Now I do admit I’ve not listened to him for years (listening to false prophets is not my cup of tea), but as I recall he simply says a sin is a sin. In my book that’s not hate. As to the other part, I never heard him utter one racist thing. Can you agree he is not racist whether we agree or disagree on the hate part?[/QUOTE] Not a racist? Depends on how you look at it…

I think “one man, one vote,” just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights.
– Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, March 18, 1992

Individual Christians are the only ones really – and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob – are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him.
– Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 11, 1985, defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office

When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. “What do you mean?” the media challenged me. “You’re not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?” My simple answer is, “Yes, they are.”
– Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 218

You say you’re supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don’t have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don’t have to be nice to them.
– Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 14, 1991

Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were ****sexuals – the two things seem to go together.
– Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 21, 1993,

“Well, I totally concur.” –Pat Robertson to Jerry Falwell following the Sept. 11 attacks, after Falwell said, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way – all of them who have tried to secularize America – I point the finger in their face and say: “You helped this happen.”

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[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1104850]So, was music banned in central park? NO. It was asked that people behave considerately and play in designated areas that allow for others to not be disturbed.[/QUOTE]

Just STFU. You’re so lost it’s no longer even entertaining to listen to you make up things.

It is banned. Not in all areas, but there is a partial ban.

And people are not “asked” to behave considerably, they are fined (quite heavily I believe) if they do not comply with the ban. And again, the article clearly showed no one was publicly calling for a ban in the first place. You can whine and claim that others don’t want to be disturbed by the music, but you cant show me anyone who actually said that.

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Other than maybe the first quote, I don’t see anything that can be construed as racism in those quotes. He did say certain religions are better than others, but he didn’t say certain races are better than others.

I also didn’t see any hate. Contrast what Robertson said to what Wright said and tell me they are the same thing.

You also haven’t explained to me the relationship between Robertson and Bush. Again, I’m not familiar with this, so I’m asking you to fill me in.

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[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1105013]You also haven’t explained to me the relationship between Robertson and Bush. Again, I’m not familiar with this, so I’m asking you to fill me in.[/QUOTE]

After Bush started appointing conservatives like Ashcroft, their relationship became cozy. Robertson’s Operation Blessing and groups founded by employees of Robertson were the first to receive grants from the Faith-Based Initiatives program. Robertson had initially criticized the program because he was afraid non-Christian groups would get money. Once he got HIS money, he stopped criticising it.

It’s also curious to note that all 21 programs that were originally awarded grants were Christian organizations, most of them Evangelical.

It was to Robertson that Bush confided “we’re not going to have any casualties” when discussing the impending invasion of Iraq.

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[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1105109]It was to Robertson that Bush confided “we’re not going to have any casualties” when discussing the impending invasion of Iraq.[/QUOTE]

That has been denied by Rove, who was present during the meeting. And I don’t know about you, but I’d take Rove’s word any day over Robertson’s. Rove doesnt have a long record of making false Biblical predictions.

Source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49088-2004Oct20.html

Here is more info on Robertson’s views on George W Bush:

“Robertson accused President George W. Bush of “undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country [Rwanda].””

Source:
http://www.thenation.com/article/pat-robertsons-katrina-cash

In light of this info, do you agree that your assertion that Robertson was “Bush’s religious confidant” was incorrect?

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Bill Maher on Rick Perry

Check out this Real Time clip from June 17th ‘Yee Haw! Let Jesus take the wheel’…its the first one on there now.

https://www.facebook.com/Maher :smiley:

Raises some poignant thoughts…