Looks like more incumbent Democrats had a bad night on election day. Arlen Specter lost, despite having been in the Senate for decades and having Obama’s support.
And Rand Paul, Ron Paul’s son and the candidate endorsed by the Tea Party, won over 60% of the vote in his race.
Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/18/tuesday.primaries/index.html?hpt=T1
They better not touch that 1.9% pay raise for us coming next year…
[QUOTE=Drake;1014535]They better not touch that 1.9% pay raise for us coming next year…[/QUOTE]
Republicans tend to appreciate the armed forces more than Democrats.
At least during my lifetime, the biggest defense/military spending cuts were done under Democrats Carter and Clinton. Of course Clinton “loathed the military” as well.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014560]Republicans tend to appreciate the armed forces more than Democrats.
At least during my lifetime, the biggest defense/military spending cuts were done under Democrats Carter and Clinton. Of course Clinton “loathed the military” as well.[/QUOTE]
pulls out Army Times right in front of him
“A House panel proved May 12 it isn’t ready to heed Defense Secretary Robert gates’ call to cut personnel costs to free money for other military programs”
“Now just isn’t the time to be doing that,” said Rep. Susan Davis, D-Calif.
She is also skeptical of Defense Department analyses that suggest our pay equals or exceeds the private sector.
" I am unaware of any civilian occupation that includes the same arduous duties and sacrifice that is made by members of the military."
I don’t know if this article is online. Point being, Republicans DO NOT corner the market in patriotism or military support.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014531]Arlen Specter lost, despite having been in the Senate for decades and having Obama’s support.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but Arlen Specter was a Republican until just recently and he lost a Democratic primary. Which is not entirely unsurprising. Especially after he said:
“My change in party will allow me to be re- elected.”
It allowed Joe Sestak to paint him as nothing more than an opportunist. Which, evidently, was a very successful strategy.
[QUOTE=Drake;1014565]I don’t know if this article is online. Point being, Republicans DO NOT corner the market in patriotism or military support.[/QUOTE]
Notice I said “tend to”. I never said they cornered the market.
There are pro-military Democrats, yes. But you also have some that are openly anti-military as well. I can’t think of one anti-military Republican though.
[QUOTE=Reality_Check;1014581]Yes, but Arlen Specter was a Republican until just recently and he lost a Democratic primary. Which is not entirely unsurprising. Especially after he said:
“My change in party will allow me to be re- elected.”
It allowed Joe Sestak to paint him as nothing more than an opportunist. Which, evidently, was a very successful strategy.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, Spector was an opportunist. Spector only left the GOP when it became apparent he would lose the GOP primary.
You do realize that Obama backed Spector though, right?
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014603]Notice I said “tend to”. I never said they cornered the market.
There are pro-military Democrats, yes. But you also have some that are openly anti-military as well. I can’t think of one anti-military Republican though.[/QUOTE]
Who’s blatantly anti-military? That’s sort of like political suicide.
[QUOTE=Drake;1014612]Who’s blatantly anti-military? That’s sort of like political suicide.[/QUOTE]
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” -John Kerry
“I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, …” -Bill Clinton
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014604]You do realize that Obama backed Spector though, right?[/QUOTE]
Just like Mitch McConnell backed Trey Grayson.
Of course the Republican candidate for the seat formerly held by Jack Murtha wasn’t able to win. In a conservative district that has been trending red.
I believe that makes the Republican’s 0-7 in special elections over the last 16 months (NY-20, IL-5, CA-32, CA-10, NY-23, FL-19, and PA-12).
[QUOTE=Reality_Check;1014635]Just like Mitch McConnell backed Trey Grayson.[/QUOTE]
Alot of the Party favorites lost last night. Honestly, this is good for the country. I am smart enough to realize some Republicans are to blame as well for the messes we are in.
Which race was this, btw?
[QUOTE=Reality_Check;1014637]Of course the Republican candidate for the seat formerly held by Jack Murtha wasn’t able to win. In a conservative district that has been trending red.
I believe that makes the Republican’s 0-7 in special elections over the last 16 months (NY-20, IL-5, CA-32, CA-10, NY-23, FL-19, and PA-12).[/QUOTE]
It’s a conservative district if you count voter registrations. But Murtha, who was a pork barrel king, held the seat for years and years.
Out of those 7 special elections, how many of those were seats held by Republicans that changed hands? I know NY-20 was, but of course the Republicans split their votes in that race.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014651]Alot of the Party favorites lost last night. Honestly, this is good for the country.[/QUOTE]
On this we agree: I am a fan of primary challenges. No incumbent is entitled to their seat.
[QUOTE=Reality_Check;1014659]On this we agree: I am a fan of primary challenges. No incumbent is entitled to their seat.[/QUOTE]
Yup. I agree 100%. Sadly, alot of politicians have an entitlement mentality. November will be a reality check for alot of politicians.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014651]Which race was this, btw?[/QUOTE]
Trey Grayson lost to Rand Paul.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1014627]“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” -John Kerry
“I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, …” -Bill Clinton[/QUOTE]
John Kerry already clarified that statement. I don’t like him, but that’s for different reasons.
And how is what Bill Clinton wrote anti-military?
[QUOTE=Drake;1014664]John Kerry already clarified that statement. I don’t like him, but that’s for different reasons.
And how is what Bill Clinton wrote anti-military?[/QUOTE]
Kerry gave an explanation that, in my opinion, made no sense. If you bought it, that’s fine, and your right to do so. I did not buy his explanation, nor did some Iraq war veterans (I’ve seen some hilarious pics of them referencing that quote). Kerry is also famous for throwing the medals he got in Vietnam over the fence of the Capitol Building. Of course Kerry again waffled and said he threw his ribbons, but not his medals. He claimed he threw another man’s medals. I also feel that is anti-military.
When you say you “loathe the military”, I don’t see how anyone could say that’s not anti-military.
Wasn’t a fan of Kerry (how the F do you get a medal for getting injured when you and your buddies are the only ones firing?) nor Clinton (slashed CoLA just before I took my first job that actually paid CoLA, so that was personal).
But I think I’m finally ready to vote Republican.
I look forward to voting Democrat for the next 20 years or so.
The GOP is the party of war, of foreign military adventures, of deficit spending on bombs, bullets and drones to be exploded/expended outside our borders.
If you want perpetual war, moralizing and pandering to our own home grown Christian version of the Jihadist zealots, and open (rather than covert) corruption with respect to the Wall Street fatcats and oil companies in general…
then just vote Republican.
In the final analysis… Bush and Cheney lied, they lead us into war, and their party must pay the price for their error. That’s the nature of a democratic society.
Republicans are the greater of the two electoral evils.. and their party must and will be paying for decades for their war-mongering.
Even if that means electing a radical green socialist or otherwise unacceptable candidates just because they do not have an (R) next to their name.