http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO1lO1CVkTE
You gotta love it when the shoe is on the other foot! 
In the end, it comes down to an honest and fundamental disagreement about the proper role of government. We oppose the national Democrats view that says the way to strengthen our country is to increase dependence on government. We believe the way to strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington and empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and create jobs.âBobby Jindal
and thenâŚ
We have been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too often meant too little, too late to stop the oil from hitting our coast, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said during a Monday news conference at Port Fourchon with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.
BP is the responsible party, but we need the federal government to make sure they are held accountable and that they are indeed responsible. Our way of life depends on it, Jindal said.
a) politicians are fork tongued no matter their party, no matter their stripe
b) the ones that matter are the ones who hold power, everyone else is a bleating shlub.
1Bad what do you think Obama should be doing specifically?
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1016142]and thenâŚ[/QUOTE]
Jindal is upset because he wanted to build some barrier sandbars to stop, or slow, the oil getting to his state. The Federal Government told him he could not do that.
If States had the rights the Founders intended, La would be alot better off as Jindal had a plan while the Federal Government did not. And not only did they not have a plan, they told the guy with a plan he was forbidden to execute his plan.
Governor Jindal is not speaking with a forked tongue. The Federal Government **** sure should be held responsible for them telling La that La could not try and fix the mess themselves.
[QUOTE=SanHeChuan;1016298]1Bad what do you think Obama should be doing specifically?[/QUOTE]
Nothing.
See, Iâm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. Itâs not the Federal Governmentâs responsibility, itâs the States. My point was that when Katrina hit, the press and the Democrats said it was all Bushâs fault and he was skewered for not doing enough, not caring, being a racist, etc. But when disaster strikes the same area and a liberal Democrat is President the press is mum while he does NOTHING for the victims, and is instead golfing, playing basketball, attending fundraisers in California, etc.
Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy. The press would never shut up about how his good ole oil buddies destroyed the Gulf Coast and all he did was shoot hoops and go to fundraisers while these poor victims suffered. But Obama gets a pass. Of course Obama also got alot of campaign cash from BP OilâŚ
[QUOTE=1bad65;1016321]Nothing.
See, Iâm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. Itâs not the Federal Governmentâs responsibility, itâs the States. My point was that when Katrina hit, the press and the Democrats said it was all Bushâs fault and he was skewered for not doing enough, not caring, being a racist, etc. But when disaster strikes the same area and a liberal Democrat is President the press is mum while he does NOTHING for the victims, and is instead golfing, playing basketball, attending fundraisers in California, etc.
Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy. The press would never shut up about how his good ole oil buddies destroyed the Gulf Coast and all he did was shoot hoops and go to fundraisers while these poor victims suffered. But Obama gets a pass. Of course Obama also got alot of campaign cash from BP OilâŚ[/QUOTE]
what victims so far?
Bush was lax in providing much needed aid to Louisiana and teh city of New Orleans was lax in providing ward 9 with a decent seawall.
did you know that up in canada a band called the tragically hip wrote a song called ânew orleans is sinkingâ in the 80âs.
Even then, everyone knew that the New orleans sea wall was a joke.
People do nothing but react, and THAT is the problem.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1016321]Admit it, if Bush were President right now, he would be being burned in effigy.[/QUOTE]
How many people have died?
How many people are homeless?
How many people need food and water?
Where is the looting?
Where is the lawless Chaos?
Other than geographical location, what do these two things really have in common?
Bush probably would be criticized more, and he might of been unfairly criticized during Katrina, but I doubt Bush would have been criticized as much for this disaster as he was for Katrina, because people are not dying.
[QUOTE=SanHeChuan;1016340]How many people have died?
How many people are homeless?
How many people need food and water?
Where is the looting?
Where is the lawless Chaos?
Other than geographical location, what do these two things really have in common?
Bush probably would be criticized more, and he might of been unfairly criticized during Katrina, but I doubt Bush would have been criticized as much or this disaster as he was for Katrina, because people are not dying.[/QUOTE]
You speak common sense. Donât expect it to be understood by the troll though. lol
âvictimsâ :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1016348]You speak common sense. Donât expect it to be understood by the troll though. lol
âvictimsâ :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Dude, the Gulf Coast seafood industry is taking an enormous hit. I saw a guy who owns a boat in Florida who takes tourists and fishermen out into the Gulf saying his business is likely going to go under. Florida is spending over $25 million in advertising so they donât lose tourism money. And what about the taxpayers footing the bill now, arenât they victims? I notice that in the liberalâs world, taxpayers can never be victims.
And I love how you liberals are now saying an oil spill that is now the biggest in US history has no victims. My, my, what hypocracy.
And Carville said âpeople are dyinâ. Sounds like he says there are victims.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1017081]Dude, the Gulf Coast seafood industry is taking an enormous hit. I saw a guy who owns a boat in Florida who takes tourists and fishermen out into the Gulf saying his business is likely going to go under. Florida is spending over $25 million in advertising so they donât lose tourism money. And what about the taxpayers footing the bill now, arenât they victims? I notice that in the liberalâs world, taxpayers can never be victims.
And I love how you liberals are now saying an oil spill that is now the biggest in US history has no victims. My, my, what hypocracy.
And Carville said âpeople are dyinâ. Sounds like he says there are victims.[/QUOTE]
uh, you live in the land of lawsuits and there is nothing stopping any shrimpers from suiing and winning against BP. Donât you think?
why are you against socialism, but then you support it when itâs convenient to do so.
BP is 100% responsible for their mess. BP should 100% pay for it and Obama seems to be working towards changing the legislation that allows oil companies to duck out after paying 70 million.
nobody is dying. whether Carville says it or not.
BP is responsible for the mess and they will pay or pay back, one way or another.
also, where are you getting the information that the white house is stopping Louisiana from taking protective measures? Is that an EPA thing or a directive from the white house?
also, as you are a right winger, are you certain you are just making stuff up to fit your argument again? Because you do that a lot.
I love how conservatives equate or elevate people losing money above people losing their lives.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017096]why are you against socialism, but then you support it when itâs convenient to do so.[/QUOTE]
Since you canât read and/or comprehend my posts, Iâm forced once again to decipher written English for you. :rolleyes:
Here is what I posted: âSee, Iâm consistent. I think Bush owed the Katrina victims nothing. Itâs not the Federal Governmentâs responsibility, itâs the States.â
Do you understand it now?
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017096]nobody is dying. whether Carville says it or not.[/QUOTE]
Actually 11 people have died so far, and many people cleaning up the oil are reporting serious health problems.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017096]also, where are you getting the information that the white house is stopping Louisiana from taking protective measures? Is that an EPA thing or a directive from the white house?[/QUOTE]
Again, you fail reading comprehension. :rolleyes:
I used the words âFederal Governmentâ not the words âWhite Houseâ. Please learn to read.
But here is a link. Iâm sorry itâs written in English, as you seem to have a hard time understanding it.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-asks/story?id=10731680
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017096]also, as you are a right winger, are you certain you are just making stuff up to fit your argument again? Because you do that a lot.[/QUOTE]
Show me where Iâve âmade stuff upâ, and Iâll leave here and never come back.
And keep in mind, if Iâve been mistaken and owned up to it, thats not âmaking stuff upâ.
Did I make up the Carville video? 
[QUOTE=SanHeChuan;1017099]I love how conservatives equate or elevate people losing money above people losing their lives.[/QUOTE]
Did I say that, or are you once again making stuff up and saying you found it in my posts? :rolleyes:
really?
I highly doubt that youâll never come back here again.
I think your being here and spreading these neo-con bs lies and agitation is likely connected to some job you have, or you are suffering from chicken little syndrome and do this kind of thing in a lot of places as if you are doing a service to the community or something. lol
I still have yet to see you participate intelligently in a post about traditional chinese martial arts, kung fu, qi gong or any of the other subject matter that is the focus of this place.
so, i simply donât believe you when you say stupid things like that because youâve been shown to be wrong before on many occasions and yet you are still here pushing a neo con information agenda and regurgitating rush limbaugh and fox news. lol
whatever dude. keep banging your drum I guess.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017133]really?
I highly doubt that youâll never come back here again.[/QUOTE]
So you canât find even one example.
Since you canât, kindly stop making baseless assertions then.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017133]I think your being here and spreading these neo-con bs lies and agitation is likely connected to some job you have, or you are suffering from chicken little syndrome and do this kind of thing in a lot of places as if you are doing a service to the community or something. lol[/QUOTE]
Ok, youâre right. You got me.
BTW, whatâs your reason for being here and matching me post-for-post?
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017133]I still have yet to see you participate intelligently in a post about traditional chinese martial arts, kung fu, qi gong or any of the other subject matter that is the focus of this place.[/QUOTE]
Unlike you, I donât consider myself an expert in things Iâve had no education/training/experience in. Since I have about zero knowledge of those things, I donât debate/discuss them.
Iâve participated in the MMA and boxing areas/threads.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017133]so, i simply donât believe you when you say stupid things like that because youâve been shown to be wrong before on many occasions and yet you are still here pushing a neo con information agenda and regurgitating rush limbaugh and fox news. lol[/QUOTE]
I canât really decipher that run-on sentence. Please rephrase it.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1017133]whatever dude. keep banging your drum I guess.[/QUOTE]
And you keep matching me post-for-post.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1017141]So you canât find even one example.
Since you canât, kindly stop making baseless assertions then.[/quote]
not that I canât find them, just not going to bother looking. You know itâs been pointed out to you before where you were outright wrong on the facts. But anywayâŚ
Ok, youâre right. You got me.
BTW, whatâs your reason for being here and matching me post-for-post?
Iâve told you before, this is the taint section and itâs where I troll. Sometimes itâs a soft trolling and other times itâs hard trolling. really, beside goofy youtube vid shows, thereâs not a lot to do in an off topic forum beside trolling, but you knew that!
Unlike you, I donât consider myself an expert in things Iâve had no education/training/experience in. Since I have about zero knowledge of those things, I donât debate/discuss them.
ha! YOu discuss plenty of stuff you demonstrably have no knowledge of.
Iâve participated in the MMA and boxing areas/threads.
with taunts aimed at rudy abel? that doesnât count. lol
I canât really decipher that run-on sentence. Please rephrase it.
nay, tis english read again. Itâs quite clear in content.
And you keep matching me post-for-post.
yep export and import of SQL dbases is a dull task and requires almost no physical interaction in the during part of the import or export. 
Originally Posted by SanHeChuan
I love how conservatives equate or elevate people losing money above people losing their lives.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1017119]Did I say that, or are you once again making stuff up and saying you found it in my posts? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1bad65;1016321]My point was that when Katrina hit, the press and the Democrats said it was all Bushâs fault and he was skewered for not doing enough, not caring, being a racist, etc. But when disaster strikes the same area and a liberal Democrat is President the press is mum while he does NOTHING for the victims, and is instead golfing, playing basketball, attending fundraisers in California, etc. [/QUOTE]
This post sounds to me like you think doing nothing while people are dying, is the same as doing nothing while people are losing money. If that is not what you think, then you wouldnt expect Obama to get equal criticism as bush, would you.
[QUOTE=1bad65;1017117]Actually 11 people have died so far, and many people cleaning up the oil are reporting serious health problems. [/QUOTE]
Just to be specific, those 11 people were killed by the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon, not as a result of the spill.
Which begs the question; how many people have been killed by the spill itself?