So who watched the debate last night?

And if so, what were your impressions?

I hoped Herman Cain would have done better, but I felt Ron Paul, Michelle Bachman, and Tim Pawlenty did better than expected. Bachman especially did a very good job when asked about her Tea Party ties. Though not my first choice, I think Mitt Romney did good enough as the front runner. No gaffes, and he was clear about the differences in his heathcare plan for the State of Massachusetts vs the Federal plan known as Obamacare.

It was a half circle of what appeared to be miseducated drunk people.
Fascinating to watch a train wreck like that.

Meanwhile, Obama’s got a billion dollar campaign chest that locks the GOP and their crazy minded weirdness out of the running.

You can thank W for sinking the GOP and you can thank Palin for keeping it sunk. Paul is a non-issue as long as he carries that anchor around his neck.

Why is he even bothering with the GOP? He ain’t that much of a republican. Not on their terms anyway.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103637]It was a half circle of what appeared to be miseducated drunk people.[/QUOTE]

Please inform us what they were miseducated about.

[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1103669]Please inform us what they were miseducated about.[/QUOTE]

How humans behave and how the world goes round. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103671]How humans behave and how the world goes round. :)[/QUOTE]

So you cant tell us specific things they were miseducated about. None of them said anything miseducated like the Federal Reserve was a private corporation did they?

[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1103633]what were your impressions?[/QUOTE]
Last night I could only see a group of “greedy” and “selfish” people on the stage.

Republican = greedy (need more tax cut for the top 2%) + selfish (as long as I can go to heaven, you guys can all go to hell).

[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1103765]So you cant tell us specific things they were miseducated about. None of them said anything miseducated like the Federal Reserve was a private corporation did they?[/QUOTE]

hahahaha, you still believe that your lousy little vote has some effect on who and what controls the currency in yoru country?

what a rube.

the board of directors for teh Fed is a group of Private Banking organizations. It is they who set the rules, it is they who run your economy.

If you are too stupid to understand that, well go vote for Palin you idiot. lol Nevermind, you probably will.

Ah well, what can be done about that? Nothing. Does it matter? No.

GOP talent on stage last night were pretty much scum of the earth.
I have zero respect for that party anymore and anyone associated with it.

absolute garbage thinkers, garbage ideas and ignorant of how to move forward.

No GOP for at least another dozen or so years. the rest of America doesn’t seem as stupid and so, it’s Obama in 2012 and probably Hillary in 2016-2024.

By that time, you’ll be crazy from worry about health care and welfare roles no doubt. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1103837]Last night I could only see a group of “greedy” and “selfish” people on the stage.

Republican = greedy (need more tax cut for the top 2%) + selfish (as long as I can go to heaven, you guys can all go to hell).[/QUOTE]

Not one of them said they were for cutting taxes only on the top 2%. Unless I missed that part, you’re just hearing what you wanted to hear.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103845]the board of directors for teh Fed is a group of Private Banking organizations. It is they who set the rules, it is they who run your economy.[/QUOTE]

The Federal Reserve is not a private corporation. The more you refuse to admit you were actually wrong, the more people see you for what you are. You’re basically BD, you just are wrong and refuse to admit it on different subjects. If you posted that 2+2=5, you would spend the rest of your time here defending that assertion and refusing to admit you were wrong.

Oh, if it’s a private corporation, who owns it?

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103845]If you are too stupid to understand that, well go vote for Palin you idiot. lol Nevermind, you probably will.

Ah well, what can be done about that? Nothing. Does it matter? No.[/QUOTE]

Actually Ron Paul said last night (as he has before) that he is for abolishing the Federal Reserve. So you’re wrong again.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103845]absolute garbage thinkers, garbage ideas and ignorant of how to move forward.

No GOP for at least another dozen or so years. the rest of America doesn’t seem as stupid and so, it’s Obama in 2012 and probably Hillary in 2016-2024.[/QUOTE]

So how do YOU propose we move forward? And what ideas were “garbage”? Please be specific.

Man, if they control the White House that long, unemployment will probably break 20% at this rate.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103845]By that time, you’ll be crazy from worry about health care and welfare roles no doubt. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Oh, I should indeed be dead and gone when it implodes (unless it gets fixed by people who follow the Constitution). But I’m so selfish I’m trying to elect those who will fix it so other people’s grandkids wont have to pay it off instead of just demanding more goodies I won’t have to pay the piper for. What a selfish jerk I am. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1103637]You can thank W for sinking the GOP and you can thank Palin for keeping it sunk. Paul is a non-issue as long as he carries that anchor around his neck.

Why is he even bothering with the GOP? He ain’t that much of a republican. Not on their terms anyway.[/QUOTE]

no doubt… he should run indy… he is an old school republican… he would have fit in pretty well many decades ago, but that party is dead and the neocons have taken over…

i know some will find this offensive but i have to say it… how can anyone vote for a mormon? to vote for someone who actually believes that joseph smith found gold tablets that nobody else could see and that he could only read with his majik glasses… im sorry, but the whole story is just rediculous… and the second joseph smith was murdered the church started in-fighting and started to split… how enlightened :rolleyes:

actually, god speaks to me daily and he says you should all follow me instead… i swear its true… promise!!!

[QUOTE=Syn7;1103947]no doubt… he should run indy… he is an old school republican… he would have fit in pretty well many decades ago, but that party is dead and the neocons have taken over…[/QUOTE]

He wants to bring the Party back to what it used to be, the Party of small Government. As for what things were decades ago, I’d likely have voted for JFK had I been alive back then. He was for cutting taxes, strong national defense, and fiercly anti-communist. So in today’s political climate he would be called a racist.

[QUOTE=Syn7;1103948]i know some will find this offensive but i have to say it… how can anyone vote for a mormon? to vote for someone who actually believes that joseph smith …[/QUOTE]

Again I give you credit for bringing up a controversial topic. I do agree that he is following a false prophet (who also was a despicable person), but that religion has some good points. Mainstream Mormons do not have multiple wives, and though many do have large families, thay have a very strong work ethic. They support those large families themselves and are not calling for Gov’t handouts to support their lifestyle.

But that said, I’d rather have a Mormon as President than a guy from a church that preaches hate and racism.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1103837]Last night I could only see a group of “greedy” and “selfish” people on the stage.

Republican = greedy (need more tax cut for the top 2%) + selfish (as long as I can go to heaven, you guys can all go to hell).[/QUOTE]

So in your book those wanting people to keep more of the money they earn themselves are “greedy” and “selfish”.

That said, what do you call people who want to receive money for themselves that others earned?

[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1103992]He wants to bring the Party back to what it used to be, the Party of small Government. As for what things were decades ago, I’d likely have voted for JFK had I been alive back then. He was for cutting taxes, strong national defense, and fiercly anti-communist. So in today’s political climate he would be called a racist.

Again I give you credit for bringing up a controversial topic. I do agree that he is following a false prophet (who also was a despicable person), but that religion has some good points. Mainstream Mormons do not have multiple wives, and though many do have large families, thay have a very strong work ethic. They support those large families themselves and are not calling for Gov’t handouts to support their lifestyle.

But that said, I’d rather have a Mormon as President than a guy from a church that preaches hate and racism.[/QUOTE]

hey, i thought you didnt like it when people say “yeah but your guy does this”… you just finished whining about this same thing??? consistent ay…

sure, the new mormons may be more like average americans than they were in the 1800’s… but they still believe a man found gold tablets and read them with magic glasses and nobody was allowed to ever see any of the evidence… even moses came out and showed everyone his tablets…

anyways, jfk was a liar, a sexist, an a$$hole, an elitist and an all around retard playboy hippocryte… fukc JFK and his punk family… self serving d1ckheads for the most part… and so many idiots fell under his spell… i pi$s on jfk…

[QUOTE=Syn7;1104001]hey, i thought you didnt like it when people say “yeah but your guy does this”… you just finished whining about this same thing??? consistent ay…[/QUOTE]

What?!?!

Please explain. Im totally lost on this one.

[QUOTE=Syn7;1104001]sure, the new mormons may be more like average americans than they were in the 1800’s… but they still believe a man found gold tablets and read them with magic glasses and nobody was allowed to ever see any of the evidence… even moses came out and showed everyone his tablets…[/QUOTE]

My point remains, who would YOU rather see in the White House, a Mormon or a guy who goes to a church that preaches hate and racism?

[QUOTE=Syn7;1104001]anyways, jfk was a liar, a sexist, an a$$hole, an elitist and an all around retard playboy hippocryte… fukc JFK and his punk family… self serving d1ckheads for the most part… and so many idiots fell under his spell… i pi$s on jfk…[/QUOTE]

What’s your problem with JFK? Please be specific about policy, not sex scandals and name-calling. You’re above that, while certain others are not.

i dont like obama or romney but i would take obama over romney any day…

okay… you got all pis$y about people saying “republicans did this…” when you accuse libs of something… you already forget??? and here you are doing exactly what you b1tched at MK for…

i dont feel like debating about JFK… lets just say i dont like him and i couldnt be bothered to explain it in detail… i have far better things to do with my time than researching exact quotes and looking for resources on his policy… i have my reasons and they are valid to me… nuff said…

[QUOTE=Syn7;1103948]i know some will find this offensive but i have to say it… how can anyone vote for a mormon? to vote for someone who actually believes that joseph smith found gold tablets that nobody else could see and that he could only read with his majik glasses… im sorry, but the whole story is just rediculous… and the second joseph smith was murdered the church started in-fighting and started to split… how enlightened :rolleyes:

actually, god speaks to me daily and he says you should all follow me instead… i swear its true… promise!!![/QUOTE]

You mean more crazy than a Virgin Birth? Or walking on water, living to be 700 yrs old (Moses)? Parting the Red Sea? or rising from the dead?? Mehh…

I don’t vote for a someone because of their religion, we don’t get to vote for the Pope and I can’t remember any American president that was viewed as a man of God other than maybe Jimmy Carter. We just need to drop this topic as part of the vetting and get $$$ and political contributions out of the political system.

We should be voting for the person with the best ideas and plans for real pragmatic approaches to our nations problems. How far has idealism gotten us?

PS You’re right, it is offensive…just like people have issues with voting for a muslim, a jew, a catholic or an atheist. Its all balderdash.

And to answer your question, no I didn’t watch it mostly because its a bore, I usually find the 3rd party or Independent party debates, which get almost no press to have the most interesting, honest exchange of ideas/plans…

The Rep/Dem debates are usually beauty pagents without the bikinis…although that one addition to the format might make me much more interesting.

[QUOTE=BJJ-Blue;1103992]He wants to bring the Party back to what it used to be, the Party of small Government. As for what things were decades ago, I’d likely have voted for JFK had I been alive back then. He was for cutting taxes, strong national defense, and fiercly anti-communist. So in today’s political climate he would be called a racist.[/QUOTE]Communists are not a racial grouping.

But that said, I’d rather have a Mormon as President than a guy from a church that preaches hate and racism.
When has Obama preached hate and racism?

It was akin to a contest of who is the most religious and who can be the most hateful. I think Newt wins on the Hateful and Romney wins on the religion thing, unless you count Gov.Perry who didn’t participate. He’s nutty!
Seriously, this guy think God made the recession. Seriously!

And Bachmann! What a treat! Announcing she will run for president at the GOP presidential candidates debate…uh, yeah lady, that’s what you are doing here after all. sheesh! She should have added to that “I’m a girl!! Yay!” or something…

Cluster hump is the term I think. Good luck republicans, you’ll need it with this pack of cards. lol

[QUOTE=Syn7;1104017]okay… you got all pis$y about people saying “republicans did this…” when you accuse libs of something… you already forget??? and here you are doing exactly what you b1tched at MK for…[/QUOTE]

Please explain. I still don’t see the ‘but others do it’ argument you claim I made.

[QUOTE=Syn7;1104017]i dont feel like debating about JFK… lets just say i dont like him and i couldnt be bothered to explain it in detail… i have far better things to do with my time than researching exact quotes and looking for resources on his policy… i have my reasons and they are valid to me… nuff said…[/QUOTE]

Don’t cop out. You blew up on the guy. Just tell me what policies he was for that you opposed. I don’t need quotes or sources, I know what he stood for.

[QUOTE=CFT;1104154]Communists are not a racial grouping.

When has Obama preached hate and racism?[/QUOTE]

You missed my point. My point was that people with those same beliefs are now often called racists, even though race has zero to do with those policies.

And the community organizer did not preach hate and racism, nor did I claim he did. It was preached at the ‘church’ he attended for 20+ years.