So what is internal WCK?

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What I read here in the forum are

1, those who keep mentioning Internal doesnt know internal because they cant describe a tangible details on what is what.

2, those who keep critic Internal have no clue what they are talking about because they are just keep open fire on ghost.

Both have no clue and both based on thier imagination and fantasy to defend or attack.

So, what is internal? the definition, the process, the technology?

Otherwise, if one doesnt even have a clear mind and argue for arguement or generization arguement shake. that is wasting bandwidth and life.

So, what is WCK internal or not internal? what does it mean? enlightent me solidly.

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Not again! Hasn’t this been beaten to death ad nauseum. If we’re going to have another “internal” thread at least have someone beside Hendrik start it, so there may be an outside chance something useful may come of the impending 2-3 pages of foolishness.

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[QUOTE=rochester;924915]Not again! Hasn’t this been beaten to death ad nauseum.

If we’re going to have another “internal” thread at least have someone beside Hendrik start it,

so there may be an outside chance something useful may come of the impending 2-3 pages of foolishness.[/QUOTE]

ok. why dont you start it and enlightent me?

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Better yet, why don’t we just end this thread and spare everyone the pain. Nothing ever comes of these discussions. Go do something more productive.

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[QUOTE=rochester;924925]Better yet, why don’t we just end this thread and spare everyone the pain. Nothing ever comes of these discussions. Go do something more productive.[/QUOTE]

:smiley:
Better yet,

If you are not interested, and cant contribute, you dont have to come here right?

Go do something more productive, that is great for you and not side track this threat.

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Not again! Hasn’t this been beaten to death ad nauseum. If we’re going to have another “internal” thread at least have someone beside Hendrik start it, so there may be an outside chance something useful may come of the impending 2-3 pages of foolishness.

It’s unfair to heap all the blame on Hendrik. Both Yoshiyahu and HW108 have also started or unnecessarily lengthened equally odious threads in recent times. Knuckleheads!

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Internal Wing Chun is specifically within the Biu Jee form.

It is widely used in airports and other such places for deep cavity searches :smiley:

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I couldn’t have said it better than Terence did on another thread so I’ll cut and paste it:

In reality, there is no internal-external way of doing anything – there are only proper body mechanics (ways to use our body). There isn’t an internal way to throw a ball (if there is an internal way of throwing a punch, why not a ball?) or an intenal way to lift a weight (if there is an internal way to uproot a person, why not a weight?) or an internal way to do anything. There are only appropriate mechanical ways of doing anything, and by actually doing them (the tasks) our body mechanics become more optimal (you become better at throwing a ball by practicing actually throwing a ball, and no other way).

T. Neihoff Kung Fu Magazine Forum 3-21-2009 (properly cited to prevent any legal action)

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So there we go. That is an accurate statement. Internal would indicate something of supernatural quality, like voodoo or some such, which does not and can not exist. Except maybe in a 3rd rate kung fu movie. It all comes down to practiced movement amounting to perfect alignment of the body during an action.

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Chung Li had teh internals powered :eek:

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If I were you guys I would read Hendrik’s posts on the internals carefully and with attention. He knows more about this subject than all of you put together X a million. This stuff is not easy to understand but after reading a couple of times you should get the idea.

Christ. Who am I kidding, most of you guys type confused words and trip over your tongues when discussing the relatively simpler Chi Sao.

Hendrik, you are wasting your time with some of these people. I read your posts and do my best to understand them, perhaps I don’t always succeed but I want to. I know there is a lot of knowledge there.

Most of these guys here go to some “club” punch the punch bag for half an hour then roll on the ground for another one hour and finally go home feeling like dragons.

When you offer them a “key”, they kick it away!!!

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well of course. That’s because;
" people that think they know it all,
are really annoying to those of us who do."
:p:D

wish there was a razzberry button. :ppthppppttt!

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If I were you guys

Thankfully for “us guys” this is not the case.

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Hendrik, you are wasting your time with some of these people.-----

my late sifu didnt abandon me, a teenage Kyokushin with lots of ego and no nonsesne attitude. Thus, There is no reason to think my time is wasted.

It takes me almost 40 years to get here and some will take 40 years and somedays realized.

I read your posts and do my best to understand them, perhaps I don’t always succeed but I want to. I know there is a lot of knowledge there. -----

It is just a small drop from a big sea.

however, the knowledge is useless, only the knowing is real.
These type of stuffs cant be known without spending years and years in practice, one can use what i post to write a big deep book. but that doesnt mean a thing even if one totally understand it. Thus, the bottom line is can one do it? and how far can one do it?

as simple as YJKYM, it is extremely simple to do it after one spend 2 hours a day and three years under supervision and continous correction. however, one could read a book on YJKYM, totally understand it and still can do a thing right.

For example, simple question on YJKYM, how is it suppose to feel when the medirians is activate? See, that can be known by reading or understanding unless one attain it.

see, as I told you before there is no need for secret. there is nothing to be steal. Everything is open to anyone who like to learn. the only discrimination is how much could one comprehend.

and finally,

when Dharma Master Hai Deng who came and taught at The City of Ten Thousand Buddhas, heres something he said.

“any fool can get into a fight, it takes a master to realize how not to fight.”
http://cttbusa.org/cttbphotos/cttbphotos19.asp

so, if it is for fighting, then one rather not wasting life learning it. That is a part of Internal practice most dont like to know.

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[QUOTE=Hendrik;925044]so, if it is for fighting, then one rather not wasting life learning it. That is a part of Internal practice most dont like to know.[/QUOTE]

Hi Hendrik, some of your comments are interesting, some are like fortune cookies, Im not sure how much comes from you, and how much is repetition.

I have a question about your last comment. Do you mean to say that it is okay for you to practice wing chun without wasting your life because you are not looking to fight, you are looking for internal development, or do you mean that it is okay for you to practice wing chun without wasting your life because you are not looking to fight, but would be ready to fight if necessary, or do you just think that you are somehow superior to people who train wing chun to sharpen their fighting skills because you are doing and comprehending something deeper, and more meaningful?

Or something else entirely?

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[QUOTE=Genetic;925072]

I have a question about your last comment.

Do you mean to say that it is okay for you to practice wing chun without wasting your life because you are not looking to fight, you are looking for internal development,

or do you mean that it is okay for you to practice wing chun without wasting your life because you are not looking to fight, but would be ready to fight if necessary,

or do you just think that you are somehow superior to people who train wing chun to sharpen their fighting skills because you are doing and comprehending something deeper, and more meaningful?

Or something else entirely?[/QUOTE]

it simply says " if it is for fighting (only), then , one rather not wasting life learning it. That is a part of Internal practice most (people) dont like to know."

where does so many YOU comes from?

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[QUOTE=TenTigers;925025]well of course. That’s because;
" people that think they know it all,
are really annoying to those of us who do."
:p:D

wish there was a razzberry button. :ppthppppttt![/QUOTE]

Well I believe that you know a lot, I really do, but a lot of the Glorified “experts” here are as clueless as they can be!:smiley:

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[QUOTE=anerlich;925031]Thankfully for “us guys” this is not the case.[/QUOTE]

And that is perhaps why you should not delve into the internals and the advanced concepts. After all we wouldn’t want anybodies fragile “knucklehead” to explode.:wink:

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I wish that someone that thinks that they know what internal wing chun is or consists of, would give us a complete education without going into all the Chinese Philosopher mumbo jumbo. I have noticed that some on this forum can type a million words and not say a **** thing. I am seriously wanting to know what internal wc is. I have been a WC pratitioner for now on 53 years, and I feel I know pretty much what good WC is. It is possible that we all might be saying the same thing here, but with all the philosophic BS we can not really know.

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[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;925100]I wish that someone that thinks that they know what internal wing chun is or consists of, would give us a complete education without going into all the Chinese Philosopher mumbo jumbo.

I have noticed that some on this forum can type a million words and not say a **** thing. I am seriously wanting to know what internal wc is.

I have been a WC pratitioner for now on 53 years, and I feel I know pretty much what good WC is.

It is possible that we all might be saying the same thing here, but with all the philosophic BS we can not really know.[/QUOTE]

Great!

different people have different taste, in your own language,

please share with us/ enlightent us your 53 years of experience

on how to cultivate Shock jin or speed Jin or Chuk Keng or Keng Keng?

and how is your SLT/SNT lead you to cultivate the Chuk Keng?

and also what is the feeling like when one has a proper YJKYM?

Thanks in advance!