[QUOTE=bawang;1165693]students are just as guilty if they know the truth and dont care.[/QUOTE]
Being told the truth by someone you do not know and who has not earned your respect and trust is not the same thing as being told something by someone you do trust, even if they are trustworthy and one’s instructor is not.
Students will always tend to believe their instructor, who they have and emotional attachment too, than a stranger that poo poo’s all over their belief system!
[QUOTE=bawang;1165693]students are just as guilty if they know the truth and dont care.
shaolin do students are in denial. you spend decades lovingly, carefully obeying and practicing, bow down and kiss the ass of sin the, but when it comes to real shaolin that doesnt matter at all, im taking this all too seriously.[/QUOTE]
I learned a martial art. I never kissed anyone’s ass.
Students will always tend to believe their instructor, who they have and emotional attachment too, than a stranger that poo poo’s all over their belief system![/QUOTE]
this is the internet. i cant take him to dinner, then take him to edge of forest inside van and do bang bang bang in the anoos.
[QUOTE=bawang;1165696]this is the internet. i cant take him to dinner, then take him to edge of forest inside van and do bang bang bang in the anoos.[/QUOTE]
Yep, you’re a real internet warrior. Good for you.
And Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone. You’ve been throwing a lot of stones Bwang.
[QUOTE=bawang;1165696]this is the internet. i cant take him to dinner, then take him to edge of forest inside van and do bang bang bang in the anoos.[/QUOTE]
JP… you would probably be better off just ceasing fire at this point. Westerners don’t understand the Chinese, nor should you be expected to. You just made the big international no-no of contrasting Chinese culture to western religion.
I’ve worked with Chinese, Europeans (just about all of the EU in some form), Brits, Koreans, Pakistanis, Egyptians, Afghans, Romanians, Iraqis, and Australians. Even the ones who fall under the umbrella of “western civilization” have key differences irreconcilable with one another. To compare your way of thinking with a culture so different is a lesson in futility.
[QUOTE=Drake;1165703]JP… you would probably be better off just ceasing fire at this point. Westerners don’t understand the Chinese, nor should you be expected to. You just made the big international no-no of contrasting Chinese culture to western religion.
I’ve worked with Chinese, Europeans (just about all of the EU in some form), Brits, Koreans, Pakistanis, Egyptians, Afghans, Romanians, Iraqis, and Australians. Even the ones who fall under the umbrella of “western civilization” have key differences irreconcilable with one another. To compare your way of thinking with a culture so different is a lesson in futility.[/QUOTE]
You’re probably right. I merely asked if there was a similar concept of “not judging your neighbor” in buddhist beliefs. I just find it hard to believe that one can be so aggressively judgmental while discussing the philosophies of a religion. I’m not pretending to understand the differences or holding one above another.
there a differnce between judgemental, and just stating the truth.
its like a pedophile asking me not to judge him because he rape kids.
i think you made a mistake thinking i was blindly judging from my opinion. i am quoting from ancient martial art manuals and the views of ancient masters on frauds.
[QUOTE=bawang;1165704]this is perfectly understandable. he is saying he knows sin the scammed him and his friends, but he liked the cardio.[/QUOTE]
More than the cardio, the martial technique. It doesn’t justify the lie, but I wasn’t paying for the stories so it didn’t affect the value I find in what I learned. For those that trained because they thought it was real, then I feel bad for them too.
in chinese warrior culture, stealing someones lineage, history and lore is a serious offence. in ancient times it would have led to vendetta and the killing of the fraud and all his students. the analogy is spot on.
in ancient china, if you street perform on someones spot without permission, he would kill you. you dont understand what is kung fu, or martial morality.
JP, like Scott said, probably best to not spar with bawang…I still think he’s Ross but I could be wrong…
I have to say that sometimes, when you get the correct perspective on a thing, it’s only obvious that it’s a big lie…which you already know. There is no real need to justify yourself here. Especially if SD is in your past.
[QUOTE=bawang;1165696]this is the internet. i cant take him to dinner, then take him to edge of forest inside van and do bang bang bang in the anoos.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oso;1165718]JP, like Scott said, probably best to not spar with bawang…I still think he’s Ross but I could be wrong…
I have to say that sometimes, when you get the correct perspective on a thing, it’s only obvious that it’s a big lie…which you already know. There is no real need to justify yourself here. Especially if SD is in your past.[/QUOTE]