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Re: Thank heavens, you’re flexible!

Originally posted by Rolling_Hand
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When and where and how did Wong Wah-Bo learn his WCK from Yik Kam? Or, Is this just another assumption of a false theory? [/B]

Since you are the one who post this above. why ask me?

May be you want to explain why do you create this speculation.
You must be playing your illogic game again. :smiley:

By the way, since your English is better then me.

when will you translate that Shao Lin/ Hung Mun message from the Website to show all in the web what is written there?

You agree with the historians? you don’t agree with the historian?
What is your reply? It is your turn to answer questions.

"Rolling Hand,

Still waiting for your DNA discussion or some thoughts on my original post/comparison. Any positive contributions would be appreciated. I attached another foto of which shows the WC structure and it looks a bit different from the so-called Shaolin arts in my eyes."

Remember this? we all still waiting for your DNA discussion.

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Hendrik…

>>Since you are the one who post this above. why ask me?>>HS

**Design a “why ask me?” to keep your curiosity fit. What exercises would you include in your workout? You’ve made a claim. And you need to back up your claim and list your resources.

>>May be you want to explain why do you create this speculation.>>HS

**Someone suggests that “Emei 12 Zhuang + Fujian White Crane to Yik Kam’s Siu Lien Tao, which contains 4 sections, the middle two being analogus to Chum Kiu and Biu Jee in the Wong Wah-Bo lineage.”
It is a fair question, I think the underlying premise of trying to look at the differences and similarities between Wong Wah-Bo WCK and Yik Kam’s family art is definitely the way to go.

>>You must be playing your illogic game again. >>HS

**What are you saying? Or are you playing a game? If you want to be taken seriously as a true researcher or historian, please give us what you have, not just give everybody some grandious sponge assumptions!

>>By the way, since your English is better then me.>>HS

**Oh well, my mom is a beautiful blonde from London.

>>when will you translate that Shao Lin/ Hung Mun message from the Website to show all in the web what is written there?>>HS

**Why? Is it because you don’t trust yourself and your own history? The best thing for you to do is to think about your attempts to achieve balance in your life.

>>You agree with the historians? you don’t agree with the historian?
What is your reply? It is your turn to answer questions.>>HS

**To understand others is to have knowledge; to understand oneself is to be illumined. To be always talking is against nature. For the same reason a hurricane never lasts a whole week.

>>"Rolling Hand,>>HS

**…and you must be Hendrik!

>>Still waiting for your DNA discussion or some thoughts on my original post/comparison. Any positive contributions would be appreciated. I attached another foto of which shows the WC structure and it looks a bit different from the so-called Shaolin arts in my eyes.">>HS

**LOL, Those that would gain what is under heaven by tampering with so-called DNA - I have seen that they do not succeed. All I have seen - you made some grandious sponge assumptions!

>>Remember this? we all still waiting for your DNA discussion.>>HS

**Beautiful springtime! I feel it in my bones, but I can’t bring it to you.

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Hello,

I was going to try an avoid the trolls but I cant let this one go.

Roger,

What makes you think Wong Wah Bo didn’t know the same longer one set as Yik Kam?

What makes you think Wong Wah Bo wasn’t the one who broke the longer one set into 3 shorter ones.

You mentioned you were from Futshan! Hendrik provided you a link so that you can read and translate the historical records of Hung Mun. Any info. you would like to share with us non-cninese readers?

Tisk tisk. 700 + and still going strong without one piece of your own info..

Regards,

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Roger

Rollinghand Wrote>

my mom is a beautiful blonde from London

I knew we had something in common!!! London;)

Sheldon

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Hi Jim,

Roger,

>>What makes you think Wong Wah Bo didn’t know the same longer one set as Yik Kam? >>Jim

**Understanding the subtle distinction gives one the advantages to appreciate the art of WCK. As for Hendrik’s Cho family art(Emie 12 Zheung + White Crane). Evidently, a certain someone needs reminding, WCK is WCK, Emie Kung fu is Emie Kung fu. Sometimes You’d like to believe that people know better than to pull a fast one.

Please judge for yourself about the Cho’s family art.

http://www.dragonslist.com/kwoon/index.php?id=63

And the art of Wong Wah-Bo WCK.

http://www.wingchun.hk.com/

http://www.templewingchun.com/

>>What makes you think Wong Wah Bo wasn’t the one who broke the longer one set into 3 shorter ones.>>Jim

**There are so many preceptions that they are beyond imagination. Not like Hendrik, I can’t speak for other WCK lineages. Who stops talking in time nothing can harm. Wong Wah-Bo WCK is safe and secure.

>>You mentioned you were from Futshan! Hendrik provided you a link so that you can read and translate the historical records of Hung Mun. Any info. you would like to share with us non-cninese readers?>>Jim

** About Hendrik’s link…nothing is new there, just gossips. When discipline begins to be natural, a part of you, it’s very important to learn let go. For the kung-fu man, to understand others is to have knowledge, in other words, do kung-fu, not talk kung-fu.

>>Tisk tisk. 700 + and still going strong without one piece of your own info..>>Jim

**Think about the last time you listened to your inner voice. What did it say? To conquer others needs strength. You should go back to your training instead of telling other people what to do here…that now is time to have fun with yourself. You are your only master. Who else?

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I knew we had something in common!!! London

Sheldon

Sheldon,

hahaha…London is my third home.

I will be in London at the end of this month!

Roger

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feed the trolls
tuppence tuppence a bag.

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Originally posted by yuanfen
feed the trolls
tuppence tuppence a bag.

Joy,

You are correct .

Jim,

he is also doesn’t know how to read.

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21215

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Hendrik,Joy,Roger,

Hendrik and Joy,

Will take your advice and avoid the trolls after this final reply! What can I say? I love kids!

Roger,

The more you write the more you show your inner beauty.

This reply will use your logic and your logic only so take a look how funny your posts are to adults.

  1. Since your logic is Emei is Emei and WC is WC then that would mean your precious Wong Wah Bo WC never developed from anything! It just came out of the blue but I guess you just appreciate his art and not his history since it states it came from Snake and Crane. Especially since Snake is Snake and Crane is Crane.

  2. You post a link to a know eclectic version of the Yik Kam WC. Seeing how you dont like to follow the info. being presented, and use only what is known as not proper, why dont you look back at the foto’s Hendrik posted to see what Yik Kam proper looks like. That way you wont waste time with nonsense. Wow! Looks just like Wong Wah Bo’s WC! Who would have thought?

  3. On a discussion board people share their own info. and discuss others. Hendrik does not speak for other lineages as you claim. We all discuss! Yet! Using you logic again! Since he, and others, discussed public info. for all to share and you say he is speaking for others then I guess we can say that about you since you cut and pasted from the Jee Shim info.. I guess that means you speak for Jee Shim now using your logic.

  4. Whenever anyone asks you for any sort of input you state
    your Mantra: Do Kung Fu/Dont Talk Kung Fu! With 708+ useless posts I can see how you dont follow your own beliefs. Whats good for the Goose is not good for the Rolling Hand I guess! Thats a lot of Talking Kung Fu even tho it hasnt contributed one ounce of positive info. for the WC community.

Feel no need to reply!

Regards,

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Hey: http://www.shaolinkempo.com/

They use the name Shaolin. They talk about their Five Animals content.

Here’s one of their forms:

ftp://www.shaolinkempo.com/videoclips/brown3.avi

Just a name…

(Dzu, no brushing up!)

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shaolin kempo has it all!

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Originally posted by reneritchie
[B]Hey: http://www.shaolinkempo.com/

They use the name Shaolin. They talk about their Five Animals content.

Here’s one of their forms:

ftp://www.shaolinkempo.com/videoclips/brown3.avi

Just a name…
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Instead of grunting and loud breathing, the demo should have more animal sounds and more rolling on the ground.

That said, sometimes even Kempo can work. But, is it Shaolin?

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Grendel - They say they’re Shaolin, isn’t that enough?

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Originally posted by reneritchie
Grendel - They say they’re Shaolin, isn’t that enough?

It’s enough for me, except I like seeing MAs with rolling on the ground and animal sounds for the entertainment value. :smiley: We can’t save the world from deception. We can only work on ourselves.

If only those monks in the past had copyrighted the term, we wouldn’t be arguing the point today. :smiley: So, in effect, the Shaolin monks’ irresponsible treatment of intellectual rights has echoes down the ages.

Regards,