Y’know, I’m really curious to see this ‘new thang’ you’ve got… What probs you havin’ w/the vid posting? What OS & programs are you using and where are you trying to post the video? If need be I can offer some of my spare hosting space on my low bw nets for ya to make things easier. I’m really curious about this style of yours in action in real hard contact sparring.
SOME people thought that grappling was the only way to go back in 1995. That view has long since died. As for liddel, he is a wrestler. he wrestled all through high school and was his team’s captain. He was a division 1 wrestler in college and has trained bjj for the past 7 years. He is also a striker - a thai champ and has done some kempo. liddell does so well because he is awesome at defending takedowns - this is from his extensive wrestling background.
What 7* said. He’s just less crabby than me.
To clarify something he said - the “differences” shine through more in strategy, tactics and personal preferences, than proper execution of techniques.
They make a cream for that, you know.
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sorry to hit your button there crankypants. Would you hit the cranky button the way I hit the cranky button? Is it s style difference or a personal choice? ![]()
There are only two kinds of martial arts, good ones and bad ones
Good ones work in fighting, bad ones entertain simple minds that are looking for exotic diversions from reality
Ray, I really don’t mean to sound harsh, but when people look at the surface and not the essence, it is a sign they have not been in the arts long enough. They don’t see “their style” in something because they are looking for the form their teacher does. Frankly, usually what your teacher does probably doesn’t even look like what his classmate, who studied under the same teacher, does…
Hate to sound like Bruce Lee, really I do, but it’s like water man. Water takes different shapes depending upon where it is. BUt it’s still freakin water man…
I’m glad I did the DVd and that people saw what I was getting at. Becuase frankly sometimes the world around me scares me, I wonder what’s gonna happen to the real stuff
And free seminars for any future sales you should have from MK and myself pimping your DVD. ![]()
Seriously, I don’t want to sound like a product w hore for lkfmdc
, but the video is great at showing how one can incorporate CMA philosophy into combat sports.
what he’s saying is that the punches are essentially the same across styles. The hook punch I learned in thai boxing is essentially the same as the one I did in longfist. it’s executed a bit different, but is essentially the same. boxing has the jab, wing chun has the man sau. similar punch, different execution. reverse punch, right cross, etc.
um… that’s kinda sick, man…
not as sick as when I’m hittin’ your women’s squeel button. I cna’t even get an internet deal to show the video!
yeah, we already addressed that issue. there was a thread here about time travel yesterday, and I hypothesized that the reason you are able to get our wives so easily is that you travel 50 years into the future and hit on the while they are old an lonely. Even you could get some from a lonely senior citizen.
there’s nothing wrong with lonely senior citizens, they need to get some too. I’m guessing I’ll still be banging most of your mom’s and girls 50 years form now as well.
Please explain the principles of E-Chuan which go against the “norm” principles of fighting.
One good thing about San Da is that you find out very quickly that it’s not how much that you know but how well that you can execute your moves. You also soon realize that how and when to enter is more important than you think. Since your opponent’s arm will not always remain contact with yours. To grab your opponent’s arm is not a easy task. This will force you to have a plan that can help you to achieve your goal. All those issues will make you pay more attention in the right area during your training.
This isn’t 1990.
Yeah, 7* would still have his street cred if it was.
Ray, I’ve heard the uniqueness argument before, but how is a punch not a punch? The upset punch in TKD is similar to a shovel punch in boxing. Shift that right reverse punch up higher and it’s similar to a right cross. So what is the differnce that you are seeing. How would a right punch to the head thrown off the back foot be different in E-Chuan than in some other art? ![]()
are u talkin about power generation or what?
I’m not sure I get this, because whenever I spar in san shou, people from different style backgrounds fight very different. I have a Jow Gar and Hung Gar background, so I punch and kick differently than the guy with a boxing or wrestling background. Sadly, I have yet to see how guys from the Wing Chun class fight, since they are all afraid to give san shou/da a try. We have had a guy from a mantis school come and spar with us and he fought more like a point fighter with very light and quick strikes. Our resident Boxer is trained in wing chun but he never uses it =/ His hands are amazing though. I don’t punch like the boxer, my uppercuts are different and I depend more on looping hooks and overhands. I kick more than I use my hands and when I do use them its usually for grappling.
I would also like to point out that if you are familiar with full contact fighting, you’ll be able to see that there are many different kickboxing and grappling styles out there.
As far as styles like Tai Chi and Bagua, they CAN be used for fighting. I’ve seen our tai chi instructor use it in tournaments as well as real fighting, it does work, the problem is that there are very few people out there that know how to make it work.
When you punch, do you use your elbow to block the incoming strike while attacking with your fist in one movement … sort of turning that one hand into two hands (upper arm (elbow and up) and lower arm (elbow and below)?
If so, then you are using the same principles as me. But from what I see out there, everyone goes right for the head and tries to score before being scored upon. This is a different set of principles.
Not saying one is better or worse. Just that there’s a difference.
When do you consider yourself doing business? When you have the guy down? I consider myself doing business when I have asked and recieved both of your hands … styles were styles because they were different. Otherwise it would be called fist fighting.
Boogie Boarders, Long Boarders and Short boarders are all riding waves and using gravity to fall down the wave … but each has its own style, principles. Each board is riden differently. I ride both a long board and a short board … its still surfing, but different aproach with each board.
Awesome…