some self-proclaimed experts
Pots and kettles.
Terence,
you take yourself way too seriously. One of Roberts own students went to a Chi Sim seminar and found out truly where a whole section had it’s origins. And it wasn’t from Yip Man SNT or SLT.
I really don’t care who your teacher is studying under these days… The past list speaks for itself.
Duende wrote:
Terence, you take yourself way too seriously.
**Once again you can’t seem to turn off the personal attacks. Look, if that’s how you want to play, I’ll be glad to take off the gloves and join in – but do we really want to go there?
One of Roberts own students went to a Chi Sim seminar and found out truly where a whole section had it’s origins. And it wasn’t from Yip Man SNT or SLT.
**Robert’s SNT has the same general choreography (the sequence of movements) as everyone else in YMWCK – there is no “whole section” that is different from other YMWCK. You don’t know what you are talking about. Can I make that any clearer? But if you want to get into who is making stuff up and stealing stuff, I’ll be more than happy to start discussing it. 
But as I asked above, do you really want to go there? Or do you just want to drop it?
I really don’t care who your teacher is studying under these days… The past list speaks for itself.
**If you don’t care, then you shouldn’t mind not bringing him into your “discussions.” I’ve been intentionally staying out of your (the HFY) threads – I don’t want anything to do with them. But when I see misrepresentations being made about my teacher I feel compelled to respond.
Regards,
Terence
Originally posted by PaulH
You forgot blue sky! Can’t fly away without it! Enjoy your new freedom, Hendrik, but don’t forget to come home to roost! I’ll miss reading your madman’s diaries or things on your journey. =)
Ok Pual. Here is my last Chiken to pay you before my RIP! 
Tien, Sky,
so what is Tien about?
Let’s look at what Lao Tzu said:
The follower of knowledge learns as much as he can every day;
The follower of the Way forgets as much as he can every day.
By attrition he reaches a state of inaction
Wherein he does nothing, but nothing remains undone.
Sky is vast because there is room everywhere. Room is about empty the garbage thoughts, strange habit, and attachment in one’s mind. Thus, it said, The follower of the Way forgets as much as he can every day. Empty the Garbage and one will embrace the grow , learn new stuffs, has new experience…naturally.
Without Emptying, Without forgoting, one can’t grow. it is always within that narrow domain.
If you read about the story of learning of Chinese artists, From one of the greatest artist ex Chang Da-Chian of china in our era to Taiji master ex Chen Man-Ching. What you will find is they empty themself. Chang went to Tun Huang MoGau cave to trace the Buddhist drawing for years after he was a great artist at his time and come back to the society with his superb drawing skill. Chen invest in lost to arive at advance state of art. There are many many great people in both east and west goes through these.
As it said, one has to goes lower to jump higher.
Invest in lost, Empty the garbage, By attrition he reaches a state of inaction. Wherein he does nothing, but nothing remains undone. Pheonix has to burn itself to ashes to get a new and bigger body.
In Prajna paramita sutra of Chan said, ---- practice Deep Prajna Paramita for a long time, be able to 'penetrate through" that the five layers of skandals (obstructive layers) are sunyata.
notice I use the word sunyata here instead of emptiness as usual translation . that is because sunyata is not emptiness as in the westen sense of nothing there or an empty garbage container. sunyata is True emptiness Wonderful existance. One who arive at that state when the garbage or the five layers of obstruction in shape, emotion, thinking, habitual flow and consciousness are penetrated through will “know” it is not a knowledge or proper knowledge. Knowledge is "dead"stuffs. Thoughts are dead stuffs. Those things are similar to the programs in the computer memory. it doesnt have live of its own.
If we dont know how to empty, surrender, we will not know how to “switch the Channel of consciouness”, use intention, attention… . we will not know who is the thinker and who are we.
So, without of go deep or high up where the state of the great achiver are, since we dont know how to comprehend a state we have never been.
Empty the garbage is sky. That way we make room to grow and for new stuffs. Without emptying there is no room to grow and to let great things manifest in our live.
Thus, Sky heaven means Empty the garbage, Invest in lost…
As a summary on this Tien Ti Ren
earth = allow the support from the mother nature power,
human = Awareness,
heaven = Empty out one’s attachment/thoughts/habit … for grow and manifestation in one’s life
or
earth = the root chakra
human = the heart chakra
heaven = the crown chakra
or
earth = the inertial physical condition
human = strategy
heaven = the external situation
or
earth = Hum
Human = Ah
heaven = OM
or
earth = Momentum
Human = Postures
Heaven = Jing (power)
all these has to be making sense from the iching or even Sun Tzu , or chakra system…ect point of view. because the model has to represent the nature and it is about LIVING.
As I mention in the other post before, there are differences between the way how the Buddhist and the Daoist view.
The different which differentiate between the Daoist/confucianist and the Buddhist way of using this heaven human earth are that:
Both Daoist and confucian dont have the karma teaching components. Thus, the Daoist meditate in the mountain with great Feng Shui will take the energy or power of the earth, the different manifestation / qi of heaven for the daoist own use. Daoist just takes.
As for the Buddhist, nothing was taken. It is about the energy of the nature circulate through the Boddhisatva, the qi of the heaven circulate through the boddhisatva, and the AWARENESS or Wisdom of the Boddhisatva circulate through the earth and heaven. So, everything help each others to grow.
Human is not ENERGY as other might suggest. The reason is Human is AWARENESS. ENERGY is from mother nature or earth, say we need physical body, we need to eat.
There are different model about Tien Tee Ren, however, model has to be able to converge with IChing, Buddhism, Chakra System, Nature. Otherwise, it is a partial model. And if it is a Buddhist model based on Chan, then there has to be Chan within it.
Tien Tee Ren is support each others. When people jump step or missing step there is where the trouble comes.
Such as Broken Arrow, which is an act of expanding with no Earth support and Awareness. how can this type of action be strong? it cant. people asked me why do you open up like this to subject to take down…etc. I test the Broken Arrow. I know something which guarentee fail.
So what are these Tien Tee Ren concept above good for ?
Try it and put into practice, and see what happen?
when one is doing the SLT, at work, at home…
earth = allow the support from the mother nature power,
human = Awareness,
heaven = Empty out one’s attachment/thoughts/habit … invest in lost for grow and manifestation in one’s life
So, one might asked so how is one use these for fighting?
lets qoute from Lao TZu.
36
In order to contract, it is necessary first to expand.
In order to weaken, it is necessary first to strengthen.
In order to reduce, it is necessary first to build up.
In order to receive, it is necessary first to give.
This is called the fine awareness.
The soft and gentle overcome the hard and strong.
As fish stay in the deep water,
secret weapons of the state is not for displayed.
hahaha
OK, Pual, here is your last Chicken. You go compile it if these has any real life use and passed on. or else, just put in the garbage dump and consider what I say is garbage.
So I owe you nothing more and I go RIP.
but then everything in this world changes every instant. good people can turn bad, bad people can turn good. Winner can lost, loser can win, friend can turn into enermy, enermy can turn into friend… long list goes on and on…
You know, for my mission of life, I just want to be a PIKACHU ---- not some Warrior/Bandits/Follower/Grandmaster/Doorkeeper/Winner/Loser/. so everyone is happy and I am happy always. Open heart.
hahahaha — that is the real Tien Tee Ren isnt it?
oh, take a Pikachu TIEN TI REN test about your Tien Ti Ren,
Go to the mall, approach a hot sexy pretty lady (or handsome man) stand close by to she or him and have conversation naturally.
Now, scan check your Tien Ti Ren, one by one. is your body feel balance supported effortlessly, when get close does that feeling change? what do you aware of your existance seeing her smile? do you empty your thoughts, emotion…or have/keep struck in some strange idea or focus? and then scan check the totallity with the environment and see what happen.
Hahahaha, if you feel there is any singer stuck and un easiness or stagnation… needs to keep constant compensation or adjustment then you know hehehehe you cant face a fighter yet. because you are in a MOVEable heart state. Not that immoveable heart of Shao Lin :D. your love and your fear are just two faces of the same coin. (Pual, dont do it infront of the Victorial Secret,! AWARE of your WIFE!)
Get Ernie to the mall too and see if he can stand up the PIKACHU STRESSSS PRESSSUERE TEST! hahahahaha
OPen the heart chakra and praise the spring. with matra A or HA
HAHAHAHAHA. there is no win or lose in that HAHAHAHAHA
Adios! Poof! vanish forever! reincarnated!
I am going to see my brother RobertChu since I am a pikachu now. hahahahaha
Originally posted by Hendrik
If we dont know how to empty, surrender, we will not know how to “switch the Channel of consciouness”, use intention, attention… . we will not know who is the thinker and who are we.
Originally posted by Savi
[B]Hendrik, to stay on topic, why don’t you share with the forum what 3 techniques were used on you when you went to the ground (Dei) and you said “That’s not Wing Chun!!!” in front of the two masters? Do you remember? Was it an arm bar? A takedown? Were the techniques based on Tin Yan Dei? Do you know if you went through all Tin Yan Dei, or do you only remember seeing Dei (at the end)?
Could you escape/counter those moves at all? If not, why? I’d like to hear about what happened during those three moves. What type of energies were involved? How did you deal with it? Can you share what you learned from that experience?
Thanks in advance. [/B]
Hendrik,
“That’s not Wing Chun!!!”
Why did you say that?
Remember what you have seen, remember what you have said, remember what you have done, because everything forgotten returns to the changing winds.
Find a song never sung before. Sing it today! It’d be wonderful if you can share what you learned from that experience.
Originally posted by Rhat
Find a song never sung before. Sing it today! It’d be wonderful if you can share what you learned from that experience.
Rhat,
The show is over. Hendrik doesn’t sing here any more.
You sir, are… “The Last Comic Standing”. Please see the producer for some lovely parting gifts, which includes the traditional lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni. Enjoy!!
Originally posted by Matrix
[B]Rhat,
The show is over. Hendrik doesn’t sing here any more.
[/B]
Bill,
“In order to contract, it is necessary first to expand.
In order to weaken, it is necessary first to strengthen.
In order to reduce, it is necessary first to build up.
In order to receive, it is necessary first to give.
This is called the fine awareness.”
Have you noticed that… “In order to sing, it is necessary first to say good bye.”?
Can you be wrong about Hendrik?
You sir, look for all your small ways to care today and you are the man! thumbs up
Go to the mall, approach a hot sexy pretty lady (or handsome man) stand close by to she or him and have conversation naturally.
** makes mental note to start carrying combat cane in case of approach by strangers with weird aura at shopping mall - and to urge wife to carry capsicum spray **
Originally posted by Rhat
[B]Hendrik,
“That’s not Wing Chun!!!”
Why did you say that?
Remember what you have seen, remember what you have said, remember what you have done, because everything forgotten returns to the changing winds.
Find a song never sung before. Sing it today! It’d be wonderful if you can share what you learned from that experience. [/B]
Oh my dear friend Rhat, yes, I owe you to cross over your suffering. otherwise you stay in sansara.
OK, Rhat, you want answers? hahahaha?
1, Savi’s report is in-Complete.
(Hmm, he cant even passed the National Equire’s goship magazine reporter test.)
The full sentense is “THAT’s not Wing Chun!!! HAHAHAHAHA”
and
my friend said to me" why do you like to open up this way. Hahahaha."
Got the whole sentences?
2, Savi again was wrong with 3 technics or how many technics.
No body did use a single technics at all , one just stand there raising one’s arm in A non response Broken Arrow. the other one just come in and hug.
3 technics ? to take down a useless unresponsive BRoken Arrow ? Three technics? serious? Savi must be out of his mind.
Come on, dont insult my friend, bro. he is a good martial artist.
Those are kids play for us. (my friend and me, not include you no offend)
Dont trying to stirr other up among friends to take advantage and exploit.
As it said in Chinese, borrowing knive to kill others.
Dont think all others are stupid, people will laught out loud on the strategy.
BTW,
at an everning, some one just use a single lite Kyokushin low round horse sweep kick to take out a guy with ABC enterance strategy .. raising kness… all those lots of technics.
But, that person did spare him to not fall, Didnt anyone telll Savi about that ? see? bad reporting.
3, As for 2 masters or 3 masters or 4 masters . hahahah.
wrong again. There were a senior grandmaster in BRuce Lee’s weight behind the hall, and he was saying " doesnt work in real life. doesnt work in real life. hehehe, you guys are just playing and have fun with each others."
4, And do you want to know who stolen who’s Chaan and other concept for making up HIS-STORY ? where it was stolen? and how it was stolen?.. lots of stuffs.
I wont tell you. You know why?
There is Yee between friends in Chinese martial art tradition, one is not there to exploit and stolen from friends. You certainly dont know anything about it, isnt it?
In addition, Rhat, Since I am a NO body as that Duende guy love to put me in
Yup, I am a NO body. Very happy to be a NO body.. hehehehe.
how sweet,
I can fly, I can lay on the ground, I can sing, I can cry, I can lost, I can win, I can learn things from the Santania, from the monks, from the nun, from the flower child, from the gurus, from the begger…from the kahuna… from the sane, from the insane…
I dont have to have that IMAGE PROJECTION of I am the GOD , I am the oldest, I am the original, I am the best, I am continous on making his-story by his-story. I cant accept lost or even draw in a match because that means my title…
How tense is to live that way? that is real true suffering isnt it? but then hahaha may be you love that kind of life. l dont.
Leave this Pikachu no body alone and being forgotten. that way, everyone is happy. hahahaha.
Rhat,
Dont everyone love a happy ending?
Rest in peace Rhat,
Gate Gate Para Gate parasem Gate, Bodhi svaha.
poof and there goes the PIKACHU. RIF once for all and totally.
Bill,
YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT HENDRIK.
Hendrik sings again.
Originally posted by Hendrik
[B]Oh my dear friend Rhat, yes, I owe you to cross over your suffering. otherwise you stay in sansara.
OK, Rhat, you want answers? hahahaha?
[/B]
Huh…Hendrik!
Being awake and also having awake friends who ask you questions —is the best way to cross over your suffering.
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Took you long enough to come up with that little flight of the imagination. Who knows.. maybe you were laughing in your head. But unfortunately those around you only witness your red-faced out burst.
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Yes let’s talk about your experience with an entrance strategy. Figures YOU would think your little round kick can do any damage when you have no foundation support and your range is collapsed. Real knowledge of Tin Yan Dei would help you here! Not just your fruity little mystical rant.
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And this is where it all ties in together. The Art of Kung Fu requires doing the time. Otherwise higher level of knowledge and understanding will never be acquired. What may look simple and attainable from a book (or internet jpegs in your case) is actually not.
This is why all your posts are so low-level in their knowledge and insight. This is why you have to run whenever you are asked a real questions that require real knowledge.
A master is not just someone who can beat you up.
- First your stance was- Absolutely no Chan in WC
Your second stance was- Okay there’s Chan in WC but it’s no big deal
Now your stance is- Yes there’s Chan in WC but it was stolen.
You’ve dug yourself in a deep hole, so I understand why you want to leave. When you come back I suggest for your sake that you leave your agenda of attacks behind.
Post all you want about your research and your WC experience, and you’ll be left alone. Post more of your politcal nonsense and you’ll find yourself in the same hole.
You’ve dug yourself in a deep whole
I think you mean a deep “hole”, unless there’s some Ch’an related pun there that only HFY practitioners can understand.
HA!
Thanks… fixed it!
Well, Hendrik! If I write an epitaph about you and your numerous and often long-winded posts on this forum, I think I would settle for this: “I had a lover’s quarrel with the world.” - Robert Frost
This is ever the most fundamental thing about you, my whimsical and poetic friend! The forum will not be the same without you… Anyway, enough said, now is a good time to fly and find your new horizon. Just do it and thanks for the memories! =)
Originally posted by Rhat
[B]YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT HENDRIK.
Hendrik sings again. [/B]
Hmmmmmmmm…
Well, you can still have the Rice-A-Roni if you want it.
Originally posted by duende
[B]
- Yes let’s talk about your experience with an entrance strategy. Figures YOU would think your little round kick can do any damage when you have no foundation support and your range is collapsed.
Real knowledge of Tin Yan Dei would help you here! Not just your fruity little mystical rant.
2, You’ve dug yourself in a deep hole, so I understand why you want to leave. When you come back I suggest for your sake that you leave your agenda of attacks behind
Post more of your politcal nonsense and you’ll find yourself in the same hole.
[/B]
Make me laught even when I am vanishing!
1,
A, clairifying : that is not MY little round horse kick. That is Kyokushin’s low round horse sweep kick.
B, experience with an entrance strategy.? No foundation support and your range is collapsed? Kyokushin’s low sweep is little? …
My GOD, you dont even know what is reality.
Do you know what the Kyokushin low sweep is used for? it is not mystical at all. watch the Kyokushin tournoment.
The Buddha said to Anada, You talked about herbs everyday but when you see one. you dont recognized about it at all. ---- Surangama sutra.
2, Political NOnsense?
my suggestion is save your suggestion for those who writting article and book claim thier Wing Chun is the most original and oldest, and others are the WATER wing Chun. and make up stories to do personal attack for political reason.
perhaps, it is some other who dug himself in a hole,
and have fear about what might be reveal, so they have to use all kind of political dirty trick, personal attack, to smear to cover up, to seal information?
BTW, you dont own this forum. This is free country the USA. IT is not Ming or Qing Dynasty. anyone can come and goes as they like. I dont think anyone needs to subject to your term to join this forum.
technically,
Your comment on the Kyokushin low round horse kick sweep is a good indication of your martial art experience. certainly, you have never involve in any internaltional full contact tournament such as K1 or Muay Thai or Kyokushin open. So, How can you jugde what is what on others action? beside making non sense story for political agenda about others?
You can talk whatever your believe is but you have no right to do personal attack because your agenda is to censor others presentations.
Here on you go your way. I go mine.
That is my suggestion for you. and this is the last post I reply to you be it I am staying or I am not staying in this forum.
Once again… lots of words, no substance.
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Muay Thai raise their knee… as do many other Martial Art systems to cover a low kick.
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You’re the one posting new thread after new thread making ignorant wide sweeping insults about systems that you know little to nothing about. Beyond that, you have a servere tendency to hypocritically flip flop. By rewording the martial art knowledge, that you were at one time vehemently opposed to, and trying to make it come off like it was your own.
That’s where your problem lies, and that’s where you continually dig yourself in deeper and deeper. Maybe it’s time for you to stop laughing.
Originally posted by Matrix
Hmmmmmmmm…
Well, you can still have the Rice-A-Roni if you want it.
Bill,
“Rice-A-Roni”
Wing Chun times alone can help you know, for example, when a asking-hand is harmless and it’s not, when it’s a post from “Bill the man” and when it’s “Rice-A-Roni”.
The reason Yim Wing-Chun can fight that she eats “Rice-A-Roni”.
Originally posted by Rhat
Wing Chun times alone can help you know, for example, when a asking-hand is harmless and it’s not, when it’s a post from “Bill the man” and when it’s “Rice-A-Roni”.
There is no “Bill the man”, only “Rice-A-Roni”. I am merely a Fig Newton of your imagination.
The reason Yim Wing-Chun can fight that she eats “Rice-A-Roni”.
After all…It is “The San Francisco treat”.