Reasons why Kung Fu will be endlessly debated

I hope what you say is true, because then hopefully soon there will be less of them posting in this forum.

That went right over your head lol. :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=Taixuquan99;1139561]1) Discussing actual kung fu technique takes work.

  1. LKFMDC left, and why should YKW do all that work by himself?

That’s the truth. The discussion of actual technique has been nothing, everyone is debating this crap. 99% of which is guys who talk a lot about principles of kung fu, and only a tiny amount about techniques. You couldn’t fill a pamphlet with the principles of any system, all the old kung fu manuals are about techniques based around principles, but about techniques, yet somehow kung fu is this nebulous practice that teaches general motions, not specific techniques.

A few months of technical discussion between a few people showed me to be right, but we’ve reverted to a useless paradigm where technical discussion of kung fu isn’t happening, but ten year old debates whose only cure is technical discussion of kung fu, but no discussion.

Muay thai guys don’t fight and then learn their system, they learn their system and when they’re ready within the context of the system, they fight. Same with bjj, mma, kickboxing. Only people slagging on kung fu recommend otherwise, and some kung fu people listen, and of course, that doesn’t go well, because if you don’t train for the venue, you will be at a disadvantage.

The problem with pretty much all the kung fu fights online where the kung fu guy gets creamed, is the kung fu guy literally does nothing relevant to the fight, because they did not train to read another person pre-contact, post-contact, period. The solution isn’t “enter the ring”, the solution is train as if you are, then enter the ring if you so choose. The whole paradigm here now is the opposite, and it’s useless. I don’t care what a person’s fight history is, if we’re discussing kung fu, and they don’t reference anything more than a principle as what they use from the system, that’s not a system of kung fu, that’s an idea kung fu gave you. That’s what’s being espoused here now, and it’s effectively death to kung fu. Without more technical knowledge, there will never be more fighters coming from these systems.

Bleck.

And that goes for the suggestion that some people just slag on tcma, and that in fact all those people are merely conveying well formed arguments based solely around fantasy and never are first and foremost generalizing their judgment to all tma. Um, no.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is when I do try and talk about techniques specifically often it is ignored or reverts back to Kung Fu vs. Sport crap debate. (That or of course I am not a “true” Kung Fu guy). Hell, there was a breakdown of technique in this thread. But honestly man I believe people come here anymore to simply spew their crap and argue. For every knowledgable poster of TCMA like David Ross and John Wang you have fifteen idiots who want to argue with them or others about how they don’t know some secret technique or how they are MMAist or other such drivel.

This was one of the main reasons I stopped posting here for a while and got fed up with the forum. Although maybe a little overdramatic, I also understand why Ross banned himself!!

[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1139607]I also understand why Ross banned himself.[/quote]

He banned himself, because the forum has become a glittering jewel of mediocrity!

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1139669]He banned himself, because the forum has become a glittering jewel of mediocrity![/QUOTE]

I disagree. I feel he banned himself because he took his ball and left the sandbox.
Pure ego and purely not being able to use the forum as his personal toilet anymore.

I disagree. I feel he banned himself because he took his ball and left the sandbox.
Pure ego and purely not being able to use the forum as his personal toilet anymore.

I find it kind of suspect as Mr Ross chose to ban himself shorty after Ray Pina challenged him. No one else noticed this? :confused:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1139669]He banned himself, because the forum has become a glittering jewel of mediocrity![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139685]I disagree. I feel he banned himself because he took his ball and left the sandbox.
Pure ego and purely not being able to use the forum as his personal toilet anymore.[/QUOTE]

This coming from the Forum’s new Pea**** who proudly created the mediocrity by over moderating this section and then breaks the rules he enforces here in other sections of the Board!:rolleyes:

But Dave is the two year old!:eek:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139685]I disagree. I feel he banned himself because he took his ball and left the sandbox.
Pure ego and purely not being able to use the forum as his personal toilet anymore.[/QUOTE]

You could be right, you know.

I seem to also remember that Ray Pina was proposing to touch hands with him - I assume in a friendly manner - but this may have also ruffled Ross’s feathers and encouraged him to ban himself to “diffuse” the situation and avoid a possibly embarassing situation. Who knows…

[QUOTE=Snipsky;1139687]I find it kind of suspect as Mr Ross chose to ban himself shorty after Ray Pina challenged him. No one else noticed this? :confused:[/QUOTE]

LOL, I think we were referring to this and writing our posts more or less at the same time. :eek:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1139688]This coming from the Forum’s new Pea**** who proudly created the mediocrity by over moderating this section and then breaks the rules he enforces here in other sections of the Board!:rolleyes:

But Dave is the two year old!:eek:[/QUOTE]

Couldn’t resist throwing a barb eh Scott?
Whatever :rolleyes:

You have a lot of tantrums, so I don’t think you’re the one to be dolling out advice or chastisement. At all.

Truth is, if you think meat heads bashing kungfu day in and day out is better than a slight ebb in the tide of useless posting, then perhaps you are participating in the wrong discussion group?

It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. You say it all wrong sometimes and just increase animosity towards you in the same way as anyone else who degrades into insults and meaningless barbs for the sake of it.

Thank goodness you aren’t a moderator, because you aren’t moderate and you seem to think it’s ok to bow and bend to asinine behaviours based on internet relationships?

yeah, you can take that outside. But I’ve explained this to you before, several times. Maybe you just have a problem with people in positions of authority no matter how minor, if it affords them any perceived modicum of power over you, whoop! Panties in bunch ON! :stuck_out_tongue:

you gotta chill a bit more. it really affects your liver. Try and separate your trolling from your seriousness and while you’re at it, get a grip man.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139693]Couldn’t resist throwing a barb eh Scott?
Whatever :rolleyes:

You have a lot of tantrums, so I don’t think you’re the one to be dolling out advice or chastisement. At all.

Truth is, if you think meat heads bashing kungfu day in and day out is better than a slight ebb in the tide of useless posting, then perhaps you are participating in the wrong discussion group?

It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. You say it all wrong sometimes and just increase animosity towards you in the same way as anyone else who degrades into insults and meaningless barbs for the sake of it.

Thank goodness you aren’t a moderator, because you aren’t moderate and you seem to think it’s ok to bow and bend to asinine behaviours based on internet relationships?

yeah, you can take that outside. But I’ve explained this to you before, several times. Maybe you just have a problem with people in positions of authority no matter how minor, if it affords them any perceived modicum of power over you, whoop! Panties in bunch ON! :stuck_out_tongue:

you gotta chill a bit more. it really affects your liver. Try and separate your trolling from your seriousness and while you’re at it, get a grip man.[/QUOTE]

You need it once in awhile David because you have an inflated opinion of yourself that’s does not coincide with your demonstrated maturity.

You cry about my dig to you, but ignore your own dig just now to David Ross! Who is generally not present any longer to defend himself. You cannot seem to recognize your own repeated hypocrisy!

I have tried to educate you on appropriate behavior for one with the kind of authority you now have, yet you contiue to over react, behave hypocrtically, and strut yourself around like an insecure little man trying to validate his self worth.

At least I dig you to your face like a stand up guy and take what you have to dish back, regardless of how inadequate your retorts are!

Act appropriate to your position of authority and I will be happy to leave you alone. Until then try to recognize I have left you and your little fiefdom alone for months for you to run inappropriately. So there is no need for you to act like a two year old when you get a very occasional yet well deserved reprimand from an adult.

This is a forum

A forum is an assembly place for the discussion of questions of public interest. Debates should be encouraged. It’s the rudeness that’s annoying. That being said, I enjoy some good smack talk as much as the next guy - perhaps it’s a martial thing. The only problem is that some people are too thin-skinned when it comes to chides, and others are again, too rude.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139450]Once upon a time, there lived six blind men in a village. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1139696]You need it once in awhile David because you have an inflated opinion of yourself that’s does not coincide with your demonstrated maturity.

You cry about my dig to you, but ignore your own dig just now to David Ross! Who is generally not present any longer to defend himself. You cannot seem to recognize your own repeated hypocrisy!

I have tried to educate you on appropriate behavior for one with the kind of authority you now have, yet you contiue to over react, behave hypocrtically, and strut yourself around like an insecure little man trying to validate his self worth.

At least I dig you to your face like a stand up guy and take what you have to dish back, regardless of how inadequate your retorts are!

Act appropriate to your position of authority and I will be happy to leave you alone. Until then try to recognize I have left you and your little fiefdom alone for months for you to run inappropriately. So there is no need for you to act like a two year old when you get a very occasional yet well deserved reprimand from an adult.[/QUOTE]

Scott, you don’t know me, don’t presume to.
You seem to want to be seen as someone with authoritativeness, I simply can’t get there because you slide into these ridiculous diatribes about how you seem to think people should act ad what they should say etc.

I go by the Ts&Cs and the correction I’ll take is from the owners of this site.
Not you, or anyone else on it.

Ross has stepped over the line, tried bullying, tried ridiculing others with less than adept photoshop nonsense and badgers folk off this site and so on. So, yeah, he can stay banned as far as I’m concerned and if I never have to read his rants again it won’t be too soon.

You see Scott, I am my own person and I know where I am, what I’m doing, what’s acceptable and what’s not. Unlike yourself who seems to think it’s ok to try and push your opinion onto others and complain and moan about someone who is merely clearing out the clutter. Which you did immediately.

So, Scott, no, you may not educate me, no you may not advise me, no you may not be my friend on facebook and no I will not put up with yours or anybody esle crap. So keep it to yourself and carry on.

We will not see eye to eye on this. It’s that simple. I’m a human too and have a low tolerance for manipulative blowhards.

Go educate yourself if you wanna educate someone.

lkfmdc is no longer banned

lkfmdc requested to be banned for a month. I honored that. Why wouldn’t I? That month expired a few days ago. He can start posting again whenever he pleases.

Oh good, soon we’ll have a choir that can sing about what an ass hole I am! lol :stuck_out_tongue:

Blah, Blah, Blah, Tantrum, Whine, Cry!!

Try acting with a little dignity and recognize you are crtical of me for doing EXACTLY what you just did to David Ross! You don’t want a dig? Don’t dig others. You want to be treated with respect? Respect others!

I know you by your REPEATED behavior over the past five or ten years! You should know by now I WAY outclass you in the retort department. You cannot compete unless I ALLOW you a handicap.

If you recall I criticized you, years ago, to the point you threw a huge fit here on the forum and ever since then I keft you alone and treated with more equanimity!

That is, until you entered you Peac0ck phase of childhood!

Here…let me teach you something else and something I have tried to help others here learn when dealing with someone you think is a troll or is generally behaving in a way that is upsetting to you…

…don’t get me wrong though, this I not upsetting to me, I am just teaching you here through example!

Watch carefully now cuz this is VERY subtle…

BTW in order to demonstrate this properly it would be benefical if you posted just one more inadequate retort. If you feel you need to post more than one that will be fine too, but it will take at least one more to make my demonstration more evident!

Thank you ahead of time!

Okay, here goes…

Go for it!

[QUOTE=GeneChing;1139706]lkfmdc requested to be banned for a month. I honored that. Why wouldn’t I? That month expired a few days ago. He can start posting again whenever he pleases.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think we will see Dave around much, if at all.
As much as Dave liked to troll the silly people of this forum, that simpel fact is that Dave brought a perspective to this forum that is very lacking.
That people don’t see that shows that they see what they WANT to see.

I find it funny that he’s not even around and people still talk about him. He banned himself, which is kinda funny considering. let it go. I enjoyed his insights on things, he was abrasive but only to those whom were abrasive to him most times. it’s the internet people, loosen up and enjoy.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1139710]I don’t think we will see Dave around much, if at all.
As much as Dave liked to troll the silly people of this forum, that simpel fact is that Dave brought a perspective to this forum that is very lacking.
That people don’t see that shows that they see what they WANT to see.[/QUOTE]

Scott, lol. whatever, carry on.

SR- I’ve been chatting with Dave for longer than a decade. We don’t get along and he can’t seem to gather up any olive branches even when offered.

So, he can stay away for all I care. Anyone that wants to chat him up can find him.
I see exactly what Dave is about after all these years. I find it as lacking as he finds me.

so what?

I have an opinion.

I have an opinion about your opinion.

I have an opinion concerning your opinion about my opinion and furthermore the way you argue your opinions; I have an opinion about that too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY&feature=player_embedded

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1139716]Scott, lol. whatever, carry on[/QUOTE]

Scott is very upset with you, because you needlessly threatened to ban me! :cool::smiley: