I find the aforementioned video and thread very interesting. Being a person with no experience with internal styles I don’t know what to look for, but I’m going to have my say anyways, albeit ignorant I know.
To be honest at this point I really don’t know why these people would spend the time they have to learn the skills demonstrated. I’m not trying to be disrespecful, but I’m very confused as to what motivates the people in that video. Is it the health benefits? The art? The subtlety of movement? The MA applications (I haven’t seen much of this but I have heard many times they are there)? If I am to go by the opinion of many of the [very respected] members of this forum the practitioners in the video are performing very well.
The contrast I see between this and XMA (what I call pseudo-karate + gymnastics) is interesting, though. It seems culturally the Chinese are more interested in finding complexity in the simple while in the west we are interested in finding simplicity in the complex. Thoughts?
At their age it’s about health benefits and the cultural heritage of the art and it’s continuity to the next generation. Clarity of mind and body etc etc. The martiality is likely not applicable in their cases. However, Let’s take Madame Sun as an example who has passed her family Taiji to Wing Lam who now passes it on to his students. Some of whom may apply it in combat sportive or otherwise.
Master Yuan demo three royal cannon fist or San Huang Pao Chui.
You may see tiger claws or Hu Zhua and 2 straight fists to the front and the back or Pao Chui etc.
Madame Sun demo opening and closing of hand and foot movments. They are close and separate again. It is called Kai He Gong. The moves are parts of “jade girl working on a shuttle” in 4 directions or Yu Nui Chuan Suo. There are also upward and downward movements of hands and feet. Golden pheasant standing on one leg or Jing Ji Du Li. Turn step brush knee push forward. Horizontal Cloud hands or Ping Yun Shou etc etc.
Well, I was replying early in the threads life and thought it’d take off more than it did. That and I all ready stated that I didn’t want to hijack the origional.
then again i dont understand a lot of things. like why do automatic doors only open one way? figure that one out.
What should the door do if a people are on either side? Oh, and here’s another reason I started a new thread: I hate contributing to a threads dissolution, much like what the question you just asked is doing to this thread. But no worries.
I personally thought the cannon fist demonstration exhibited the most power issuance. But that’s a trait of the style I think. It appears to have a few ‘smashing through’ techs in it.
They were all obviously long time practitioners and had refined power. Not overwhelming power, but refined.
Madame Su is always humble so she is liked all over.
On the other hand, Wu Tun Nan made a lot of “extra” claims. So people are more critical of him. Some even called him a fraud.
And some students said that he was only playing in the clip.
I said yah yah. But if you pay attention. He is doing white crane spreading wings, hidden punch etc on a “smaller” scale. He added a litte extra to single whip etc. etc.
Yes, Pao Chui is very powerful. 3 royal means heaven, earth and people or Tian Di Ren.
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I echo your sentiments…
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It never works for me.
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Though I know there are no good alternatives for posting public files at present.
Even if they play they are sometimes good for entertainment but not for MA study as one can’t control the playback.
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I look in the temporary internet files.
And open the (getfile) javascript file using the program “notepad” and find the WWW and copy and paste that link to download (usually using a cracked download assistant program).
Alternatively, the file is sometimes found in the temporary internet files and easily identifiable by it’s size and icon.But, But sometimes I don’t getit all so i just download it. Also, some Windows like XP try to hide the files and make it difficult for users to control thier own machine,
So i stick to Win 98 as it is easier to manipulate.
Then I play the file from my hard drive in Alternative Windows/RealQuicktime player.
I control the speed and slow it down when i want to see the movements clearly and repeat at leisure. The Alternative Winplayer freeware has less hassles.
I usually copy some text that’s just below the embedded video clip, go to View -> Source in my web browser, use the Find feature in the editor that’s launched and search for the copied text. Then, look just above the highlighted text for the direct link to the video.
From here, you can use a download manager to get it (try “wget” for linux), or if the file isn’t associated with any program in windows just paste the link into the browser window and download it.
“then again i dont understand a lot of things. like why do automatic doors only open one way? figure that one out.”
What should the door do if a people are on either side? [/QUOTE]
The automatic doors could slide open like they do in many regions of Asia. but there may be problems of insulation design in colder countries.
But it really seems that Western countries are backwards in their sliding door development.
But it’s true, doors opening only one way means it’s safer and you don’t have to palm your knife so often not having to pass so close by a possible enemy.
Which brings to mind, one needs to remember to adapt and redesign one’s headchopping Waza to accomodate the type of door one meets one’s enemy either by design or accident. Most of my headchopping waza were originally learned with sliding doors in mind.
There are other things I don’t understand. Like if there are two or even FOUR doors, why does everyone line up to go through the one that is being held open? So much so, that you can walk past 20 people open the OTHER door and walk through leaving them all behind. Have the muscles in their arms have atrophied through inactivity? I pride myself that this is the daily use of kungfu skill.
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Oh yes, I have another special Door Lore. You all know of course that if there are two glass doors that open inwards, and you go to open one, then there is often an opportunistic person on the other side that walks through it blocking you and forcing you to stop and act like a doorman and not getting any tip at that.
If you are not lucky it might even be the first of a 100 person theater squad and you can’t get to the other door because it is on the other side of the people streaming in the heavy door you are holding open for them.
So what i do is I always reach out to one door and at the last second I make a switch and I grab the other door and open and walk through it , and watch the other person come to a dead stupified stop trying to remember how to find the muscles in their arm. This is the daily use of kungfu skill. You have to be quick and dextrous.
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Why do people hold mass conferences at the exits of escalators or one way doors? This often requires an effort of kungfu skill in slippage. It’s all in the hips. Kungfu is really good for gettting through crowds.
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Kungfu is a Sine Qua Non for dealing with Asian crowds. and a prerequisite for travel there. But even kungfu won’t help you with the solid living masses such as in Hong Kong between Causeway Bay and Wanchai or in Monkok East Shopping Area. Trapped between the walls and the sidewalk barriers.
Thanks, the “view source” is a good tip. Just do a search for “wmv” in the source. I usually use a cracked version of stream box, which cn also get streaming media such as real player. Though, as a warning there are some legal challenges for some countries with this software.
Madame Sun is always humble and so she is liked and respected by all.
Master Wu made some “extra” claims about his background. So people are more critical of him. And some even called him a fraud.
Some students said he was only being “playful” in the clip.
There was no torso method such as turning the waist and hip etc.
My take is this. Master Wu believes that there is a Tai Chi in your thumb or circles around the finger joints.
If you pay attention, there are white crane spreading wings, hidden punch on a “smaller” scale. There are also Ti (upward of the wrist) and An (downward). The small turning backfist is like Fan Bei Chui (hitting with the back fist) in other styles, Wu Hua Pao (flowering cannon fist, Chen style) or Ban Lan Chui (Yang style) on a smaller scale. etc
I examined the moves according to the directions of the Jing no matter how “far” the distance travels.
The lesson is that we may know a lot but there are a lot we dunno.
Do not make “extra” claims. Just say what you think and why. We all can be wrong about things from time to time.
Do not “judge” something based on what you “know” only.
Keep an open mind.
etc etc.
Again, master Wu may be “playful” and only he “knew” the “truth.” And I could be wrong, too.
I don’t usually search for the file type because it could be anything from mpeg to mpg, wmv to mov, avi to swf, etc. I find my solution saves alot more time.
Now that I think of it you can better find the direct link by searching for “.putfile.com/videos/” without the quotes in the source.
Yes, I was trying to find a foolproof string for beginners to do a search, but i didn’t know putfile used all file types. You didn’t mention a string argument in your solution before.
A search on just the word “videos” seems to be unique and finds the file link.
