I was thinking about cross trainig with some bjj.(when I have money) But I have two, probably ignorant, questions.
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There are a couple bjj schools out here. Two in particular that I’m looking at.One is a Machado school, and another Relyson Gracie. Now, is it safe to assume, these guys do not actually teach there? And what is the difference between them, like is both a different style, that favors something then other? Which is more respected? I’m looking for one that is more self defense oreiented, as I’m not planning to try to train for the UFC. Will they teach me different ranges of grappling, such as standing up, or is it ALWAYS going to have to be on the ground?
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Does everyone who ground grapples get cauliflowered ears? How do ppl get cauliflowered ears, and how can one avoid this?
Go to both schools and see what they offer. Ask about Vale Tudo classes. No, those guys don’t teach there. Affiliated schools, that’s all. They will teach largely the same sorts of things.
I believe John Lewis has a good fight school out there. Might want to consider wherever it is he teaches. Might get a better feel for how to grapple with somebody who wants to beat on you there. Again though, I don’t know.
Secondly, you may or may not get cauliflower ear. Some people are suceptible, some aren’t. Getting it fixed early isn’t that big a deal though.
You can get it fixed? How come those guys still have them then?
What exactly is a VALE TUDO class?
I don’t mind sparring with someone, but like I was saying, I mostly want to learn it for self defense, on the ground. I don’t want to go to a school, that is mostly about competiton, or tournament training, where their teaching, is limited by a set of rules.
When I fight, I’m mostly a striker. But as a striker, I realize the importance of grappling, and learning how to fight on the ground. Mostly want to get familiar with it. So I can hold my own with other grapplers, and school those who aren’t.
Given all this, what should I look for in a good school, or one that fits what I’m looking for? (meaning, self defense) Like I said before I don’t mind sparring.
Oh, you’re going to spar. Don’t worry about that. One thing you have to understand is that BJJ and the other arts that usually go with it view sparring as vital to learning self defense. So that’s what you’re going to do. The very fact that you are learning how to move on the ground is going to enable you to manhandle 99% of the population down there, so don’t get TOO caught up in the difference between sport BJJ and “self-defense.” Kinda like wrestling is a sport, but even straight wrestlers do fine against people who know little about the ground.
Vale Tudo essentially means anything goes. More typically, these types of classes teach you about how to use your grappling on somebody trying to beat you up. Some schools have these classes. Others do not.
W/cauli. Some people view at as a badge of honor. I view it as a nuisance because it hurts and keeps you from training. Basically, you go to an ear nose and throat specialist and get it drained. Mine was so bad as it started that they had to slice it open and then compress it with dental rolls that they stitched to my ear. It was great because I just taped that up and got back on the mat (even though I was told not to by the doctor). Anyway, I haven’t had a problem since. My ears are slightly thickened in spots, but not so you’d notice. (and I do mean that.)
Here is the John Lewis Website. I’m not plugging him, it’s just an option.
www.lewisjiujitsu.com
Also, consider Judo. It’s usually cheaper, and you will generally learn better takedowns and takedown defense in the bargain, on the whole, as well as some basic ground skills.
Yeah, I don’t know much about takedowns. (and I never wrestlyed or played football in highschool)
Thanks for the info, and the site info, I had trouble finding that site when I typed it in the search.
Judo, huh? HHHHMMM. I was looking at the machado site, and they have classes for not bjj, but for judo, and boxing.
www.brjiujitsulasvegas.com
There art two other bjj schools out besides those two mentioned. There is a Relyson Gracie school. And there is a place called Combat Club.
www.lvcombatclub.com
What should I look for in a good BJJ instructer? Also, what about Japanese Jujitsu? Which do you prefer, Judo, or JJJ?
Well, you aren’t going to get a better price at the Machado place but it’s sure got a lot of stuff to offer! That might be great, all that under one roof. There are BJJ classes listed under “group.”
But if price is an issue, remember that there are straight Judo clubs out there that usually cost less than BJJ. While the instructor is VERY credentialed, if you’re just looking for the basics, why him? If you decide you like it and eventually top out with the guy who starts you out, you can always train elsewhere.
Screw JJJ. It’s too uneven. You’ve no idea what you’re really getting and continuing somewhere else may be hard.
The Combat Club is as good as any place to train. Seems to be a real emphasis on NHB/Vale Tudo as well, so that may be more in line with what you are looking for.
The things to look for in an instructor? The same things you would look for in any instructor.
Plus, didn’t you say you were going into the Marines on another thread? There’s usually some sort of Judo program…
Hey MP, do you know any BJJ schools in milwaukee? I was thinkin about checkin one out.:eek:
Yeah, I’m going to the Marines in November. They have a program called Marine Martial Arts, that I can take. They say it’s like a special forces type of thing, once you get a certain belt. I know they incoprate different types of MA’s in it, especially judo. But I don’t know how much they teach you on the ground.
I guess I was trying to say that Judo is frequently supported, clubs etc in the Marines.
Anyway, Milwaukee–yes. There is a school up there. Henry Matamoros at henrymatamoros.com. I think he’s a purple but he might be a brown by now.
FWIW, I’ve been told the Machado’s have very innovative in terms of integrating techniques from other arts (such as wrestling and judo). I just started training under a Machado BB and there’s not much difference from the Gracie school I used to train at.
As MP says, you can’t get away from sparring in BJJ. Always train athletically against resistance! It’s easy to add ‘dirt’ to make it more ‘street friendly’. 
Also, many teachers will distinguish between what to do for street vs. sport fighting (for instance turn head away so that you don’t get socked in the face when applying a particular technique, which is not a concern in BJJ comps.)
KG