Does anyone know if there is book written with pictures illustrating Professor Lau Bun’s Sup Ji Kau Da Kuen set (or the second Choy Lay Fut set, Cross and Reserve Fist)?
GM Doc Fai Wong has the DVD available. I am getting live instructions (not from DFW or his disciples) and I would like to purchase a book to take written notes.
Leo Fong has a book with pictures illustrating Professor Lau Bun’s Cheong Kuen set (Long Fist of CLF) and I used it to take notes.
Thanks.
I think I hear Frank’s footsteps coming now…
To answer the question no Lau Bun books.
you sly devil CLFNOLE, you ear clf is pretty good.
anyways, your best bet for video tape on Lau Bun’s CLF is to go thru DFW.
however, one of my students have me doing it in competition in Kansas.
i can see if he can get me a copy.
hsk
Frank, out of curiousity is DFW’s tape the same form as the one you know or is it altered for video purposes?
to tell you the truth,
i’ve only seen the Wah Lum tape of DFW performing our butterfly knives set. however, it is also different (the same) but different. sections are either double up for left and right, or re-arranged differently. patterns the same.
now, DFW on my links site is performing the Siu Mui Fah (i think in china).
basically, CLFNOLE, i couldn’t tell you becuase i’ve never been interested in what he’s got.
hsk
I have seen those tapes as well. His ping kuen & wu di do had similarities yet differences to our sets as well.
Frank,
Can you post the link of DFW doing that form?
And I got back from China last week. Great trip.
Visited the Fut San Hung Sing Gwoon…had a great time there, saw a few pics of you as well. I have a lot of pics, I can send you a couple if you want.
Did you get Disc I sent you, finally?
Give me a buzz when you can.
yeah i finally got the disc. nice.
so you saw pictures of me in fut san, huh?
yes, please, email them to me.
i’m glad your tripe was good.
i’ll post the DFW link right here in this post
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4009427808729173494&pl=true
That was not Siu Moi Fa Kuen. I had learned that form,(my Sifu learned it from someone under H’o Ngau) and it was very similar to DFW’s tape series as well, and this set was completely different. Must have been labled incorrectly.
I have a tape of Sifu Troy Dunwood doing some CHAN family stuff, and the patterns are the same.
i was wondering if thats not Siu Mui Fah, then what is it?
what did you guys think of it?
you guys understand his movement is HIS movement. nothing like the Lau Bun lineage. at all. although i can say, he does still have the Lau Bun horse. I can tell that one a mile away.
hsk
does anyone here know the significance of the chan familie’s doing a tip toe horse in the bow instead of a kneeling horse?
hsk
I have seen the Chan siu mui fah and that wasn’t it. As far as the bow goes it is not a Chan thing but rather varies from player to player. We do 3 stances & 3 bows, (horse to cat to bow, sei ping ma, dew ma, gong ma). I have seen others non-Chan family included also do the bow in just the cat stance. I think the reason is that the bow sequences can be long and it is just a means of making it short.
I believe the oldest bow involves the lau kwai ma since being low to the ground is considered to pay more respect.
Lau Kwai Ma?
Kneeling Horse?
the fut san hsk does not have a Siu Moi Fah set, so he didn’t get that from us.
I wonder if that set is from Wong Gong? IF Wong Gong was the Jiangmen Chan Family Rep, and he is of the Chan Family, i wonder why no one recognizes that set?
i did hear that he possibly was taught wrong on purpose but thats another thread.
I have seen about 3-4 different versions of Plum Flower and that looks nothing like any of them. Perhaps it was just mislabeled as many video clips on the internet are.
I’m not sure but think the form is fut cheurng. The is similar to the Buddha palm form he brought out on video a few years ago
You might be right about that I remember seeing this set performed on someones website and it was performed in the same manner. They refer to it as an internal CLF set and play it somewhat tai chi like. Not sure but I think you are correct.
That might be it-I remember an article on it, and it mentioned the cross legged sitting position, and the use of open hand strikes. The other thing is I believe in Chan Family, the height of the bow indicates the seniority of the performer-beginners are in lok gwai ma, senior players are in diu-ma.
You are correct, the set that Wong Doc Fai is performing in China is Fut Jeung or Buddha Palm.
Yes, as I was told the more senior you are in the system (skill learning) your salutation is more standing and not kneeling.
where you been troy?
how’s it going?