Here some Bak sing Clf demos…in the first oneU could see Sifu Lai Hung doing a broadsword forms…and the other forms empty hands seem to be ping kuen…nice spear form …
Steeve, I don’t know the forms from the other schools but the ones in your second link are preformed by sifu Edmund Ng’s students and are sup ji kuen, moi fa seurng chap & dit jin cheong kuen, which are hung sing (hero winning) not bak sing
On your first link the empty hand form after the spear form is ping keun don’t know about the names of the other forms in that link
It is a Buk Sing Banquet that was held in Kwong Chow. The clips a mixture of CLF styles. One of the spear forms is a northern one and Lai Hung’s sword also looks like a mixture because it has some of his buk siu lum moves in it.
If it isn’t too much trouble, would someone who can identify such things point out which parts of the clips are Bak Sing and which are Hung Sing? Being an outsider to CLF, I’m rather unable to differentiate between the two. :o
EDIT: Nevermind, I see an analysis has been done in another thread.
Ur right Buk sing have only a staff form…but probably some adds a lot of other weapons forms in the CV of buk sing since GM Tam Sam the spear form look very northern style
The questions now …IS whats the two empty hands forms…buk sing have three empty hands…traditionnaly(sup ji ,kau da and ping kuen)
Buk Sing has the sheung garp dan kwun (single & double end staff); however this is also seen in the Chan Family and Hung Sing branches (remember buk sing and hung sing are basically the same thing).
The 1st spear is definately southern as it is played like a single end staff, whereas the 2nd form is definately northern with the left hand being the lead hand instead of the right.
More than likely the hand forms shown are bits and pieces of sets since most sifus don’t show actual forms when performing. Generally they will put something together with parts and sections they like.
how ya doin? the openings of the two sets you are referring to is not strictly buk sing CLF. ALthough there are a few different techniques the patter of the “L” is strickly hung sing and the techniques are also within Lau Bun’s openings as well.
I could do a set side by side and although its different we will follow along each other very closely.
I’m not disputing that the buk sing say that that is their opening. What i meant was that I am not buk sing and i have almost the exact same opening as your branch does. with a few minor differences.
but if I am from the Hung Sing branch and we do the same thing with a few different hands than yours, but the same, how did we get the same beginning up to the bow if i’m not buk sing? the moves are 90% the same. we follow the very same pattern.
IF we have the same openings, then what makes yours “Buk Sing”? Is it the crane head? or is does it include everyything up to the 3 bows?
it may be the 3 bows. because typically there are 3 bows only . front back and front again. CHan and hung sing do this. but buk sing does a bow, then Kwa Sau Kum Jeung to the reverse, then bow to the front again. it is only in the buk sing branch that i’ve seen that opening.
so if you don’t know me you can ask me questions. if you don’t know lau bun or what he taught i will talk with you on that as well. I would love to share his background with you if you don’t already know.
I saw this site …before
I ask U for a video for show …Could U put one …Sup ji kuen every CLF branch have this form… The Lau bun branch sup ji kuen form…U probably know this form…
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