[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1022044]This guy is trying to generate Southern-style jing in a Northern form, and it looks horrendous.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100% there. the long fist Jin is long Jin (punch through) which is different from the Chen Taiji vibration Jin or Baji Hammer Jin. It’s more like the XingYi Jin.
Hmm, interesting. I do not know much LF, but it is all over Mantis! I call it the “Oh, ****” block;)
Thanks!
Jake
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1022044]
It’s too snappy. Long Fist is played relaxed. This guy is trying to generate Southern-style jing in a Northern form, and it looks horrendous.[/QUOTE]
Masterkiller,
Thank you for the explanation! I have never played LF, so I appreciate the education. 
Richard A. Tolson
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1021985]When your opponent punches at your face, you use your palm to upward lift on his elbow joint while your arm is straight. This will bounce your opponent’s arm upward and miss your head. This move exists in almost all the long fist forms. It’s a long fist trade mark IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f48lAjfJLek&feature=related
At 0.17 he did a right palm upward block, left palm upward block, followed by a right straight punch. This is a very common long fist “entering strategy” for body shot.
When he blocks, his body leans backward. Both of his arms are straight. That’s long fist “full extension” principle, and not prey mantis[/QUOTE]
It looks like you are referring to ‘Tiao Bao Cha Chui (lift embrace add the punch)’, or 'Wo Li Pao( dig out the cave."
Video of two man drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIOk-dZhJXA
Article
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/2009/dig%20out%20the%20cave.htm
BTw, that clip of Xiao Hu Yan above is a student of Yang Jwing Ming, descend from Han Qing Tang.
That was the national Tourny of '89, I think he got 2nd or 3rd?
I remember my shifu Art D’Agostino got first with White Ape Steals the Peach at that one.
[QUOTE=B.Tunks;1022035]Li Zhanyuan via Kang Zhiqiang (Qixing Tanglang)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2hutfDXc0Y[/QUOTE]
That is the version that reminds ome of Cha Chui. To me, it makes it seem more likely that Cha Chui was originally a Longfist form.
[QUOTE=Tainan Mantis;1022251]hat clip of Xiao Hu Yan above is a student of Yang Jwing Ming, descend from Han Qing Tang.[/QUOTE]
May be there are some white crane Fajin that had been integrated into that form.
John,
What’s the significance of the opening move where you cross your hands in front of your face, palms up (Like in your video)? Does it come from anywhere/any style in particular?
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1022690]John,
What’s the significance of the opening move where you cross your hands in front of your face, palms up (Like in your video)? Does it come from anywhere/any style in particular?[/QUOTE]
It’s a double palm forward push with finger tips pointing to each other. You then pull your hands back to your waist.
The Longfist system has strong influence from the SC system. It’s one of the SC 13 Taibo moves " (Li Kui Mo Fu) - Li Kui sharps the axe". The application is to use your hands to push on your opponent’s eyebrow area (forehead) when he shoots at your leg (or give you a bear hug, hip throw, …) with his head “vertical”. This will force his head to lean back and cause some pressure on his neck.
In the following picture, it’s done in a horse stance instead.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1022313]May be there are some white crane Fajin that had been integrated into that form.[/QUOTE]
Excellent conclusion, I agree.