Hi
Can anyone tell me the name of this form please?
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahxhozz7d5M
starts at 30sec mark
[QUOTE=5thBrother;1141522]Hi
Can anyone tell me the name of this form please?
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahxhozz7d5M
starts at 30sec mark[/QUOTE]
It goes by two different names depending on who you ask. It is called Eighteen Hands (shi ba shou) or Eighteen Elders (shi be sou). It is commonly taught by the Hong Kong branches of Seven Star Praying Mantis (qixing tanglangquan).
Thank you very much for the information 
Glad to help!
form
It is 18 elders, 18 hands is a completely different form.
“18 elders” makes no Chinese sense. What’s the meaning of
- “18” here?
- “elders” here?
Were there 18 old masters who created this form together? Have you even heard that 18 TCMA masters got together all at the same time? It’s very difficult to link “old men” with a form.
Please notice that when you speak in Cantonese, to a non-Cantonese speaker, it will have a complete different meaning. Example are:
- Shou,
- Sao,
- Sau,
Here is a famous Cantonese joke. In a crowded bus,
Girl: You love me so much, it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Guy: I didn’t say that I love you.
Girl: If you don’t love me, who do you love?
Guy: Whom do I love should not be your concern.
Girl: …
The word “close body contact” in Cantonese pronounce exactly the same as the the word “love” in Mandarin.
LOL! Like I said, “It depends on who you ask”. 
We have had this debate before.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1141608]Were there 18 old masters who created this form together? Have you even heard that 18 TCMA masters got together all at the same time? It’s very difficult to link “old men” with a form.[/QUOTE]
Well fwiw, the story is that Mantis includes the best skills or methods of 18 different masters.
This is a bad example of performing Northern style mantis in southern style favour.
Maybe he got the sequence from a book.
[QUOTE=alextse4;1141662]This is a bad example of performing Northern style mantis in southern style favour.[/QUOTE]
Agree! I have never seen any northern PM form was performed without “speed”. Sometime people may just record form in slow motion for teaching purpose.
[QUOTE=alextse4;1141662]This is a bad example of performing Northern style mantis in southern style favour.[/QUOTE]
This “southern flavour” is what peeked my interest initially.
Can anyone point me to a clip of it performed with more correctly, just to compare.
[QUOTE=5thBrother;1141688]This “southern flavour” is what peeked my interest initially.
Can anyone point me to a clip of it performed with more correctly, just to compare.[/QUOTE]
Different forms but with good speed.
N
Maybe he is doing the form to produce a video or book. Many people doing that these days.
[QUOTE=5thBrother;1141688]This “southern flavour” is what peeked my interest initially.
Can anyone point me to a clip of it performed with more correctly, just to compare.[/QUOTE]
Here is a good rendition of the form, though again done at teaching speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJT665b1ew&feature=related
Here is one of my kung fu brothers, a fellow student of Mike Biggie, demonstrating the set with some speed and power:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CIvl3eb5Fk&feature=channel_video_title
Hi Steve (18 Elders),
Where is that video of you and John doing the two man of this at Nick Scrima’s tourny?
Kevin
video
there used to be a link of it on here from yao sing( i believe) but last time i tried to find it, the link was gone
so, that video is gone forever?
This is interesting because when it is played out at this speed with the certain pauses thrown in, it changes a lot of the application compared to the way I learned it.
codeboy, can you explian? the aplication does not change due to the speed, pauses or empahsis