Perfect Fighting Stance

No one stance is strong.

Rather it is the ability to transition, to change that is strong.

That is why we say the ‘stances’ are not stances but steps, methods of walking. If you have the ability to turn your waist fast between in line and square, if you have the ability to shift your weight suddenly, if you have the ability to crouch down or lift your knee fast, then you have no need to stay in any stance. LiuHe dictates the feet move to accompany the hands (amongst other things).

[QUOTE=RenDaHai;1238950]No one stance is strong.

Rather it is the ability to transition, to change that is strong.

That is why we say the ‘stances’ are not stances but steps, methods of walking. If you have the ability to turn your waist fast between in line and square, if you have the ability to shift your weight suddenly, if you have the ability to crouch down or lift your knee fast, then you have no need to stay in any stance. LiuHe dictates the feet move to accompany the hands (amongst other things).[/QUOTE]

Ai Ya! this is the good oil!

A stance is not a stance, but a pearl on a string of transitions. Mobility is the key, from hand to hand to army against army.
The objective is to pass the danger zone into the attack zone and destroy or be destroyed.
Strength and balance at the expense of your opponent’s strength and balance is what stance does for you in a dynamic engagement.
So, there is no perfect stance, to my mind, only superior footwork. After years of playing with this question and trying all kinds of approaches, I finally gave up any static approach. I keep moving and changing shape.

“Stance is not a T or a V, you don’t attack I won’t attack.” Works pretty good.

After a fight starts, there is no stance but step (footwork). Before the fight start, there is a better way to arrage your body posture.

When I was young, oneday I got into some argument with a guy. The 1st thing that I did was to turn my body 45 degree (so my chest won’t exposed 100%) and move back half step (to be outside of his punching range). This way I didn’t have to raise my arms to guard my head. That would be too much before a conflict even started.

[QUOTE=TAO YIN;1238971]“Stance is not a T or a V, you don’t attack I won’t attack.” Works pretty good.[/QUOTE]

You may want to say that “if he moves, I’ll move faster than he does.” The only problem is if you respond to fast, people may think that your deliever the 1st punch.

Another way is when your opponent attacks, you move back to let everybody to see that he throws the 1st punch. You then jump in and start that fight. Of course you have to be good in retreating footwork.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1238891]May be you want to use it as a bait? When you put weight on your leading leg, your opponent may sweep you. If you are good at bending your leg at your knee joint and sweep back at your opponent’s sweeping leg, it will be to your advantage.

Sometime when you and your opponent both have strong stances with nothing exposed, neither party will want to make initial attack, the fight may drag for a long time. To open yourself up to invite your opponent to come in is a valid strategy “if you are ready for it”.[/QUOTE]

alright, I can see that. :slight_smile:

the answer is pigeon toed.

[QUOTE=BlackEChan;1238895]“Make your fighting stance your every day stance, and make your everyday stance your fighting stance” Miyamoto Musashi[/QUOTE]

This is the correct.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1239017]This is the correct.[/QUOTE]

Nope, pigeon toed.

[QUOTE=MightyB;1239019]Nope, pigeon toed.[/QUOTE]

Pigeons don’t have toes.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1239022]Pigeons don’t have toes.[/QUOTE]

LOL -

seriously, my thoughts are 50/50 at the start, turned to minimize openings, hands up like a boxer, knees slightly bent… but constantly shifting depending on the situation.

[QUOTE=MightyB;1239024]LOL -

seriously, my thoughts are 50/50 at the start, turned to minimize openings, hands up like a boxer, knees slightly bent… but constantly shifting depending on the situation.[/QUOTE]

Stances are always, ALWAYS dynamic and fluid, NEVER static, ridged OR set.

The first pattern in the first road of Gou Te Se’s GangQuan .

Keeping a static stance in a fight is something best left to 50 foot robots.

plant and move, plant and move.
the best fighting stance is the one that facilitates mobility.

Best fighting stance is prone position aiming a 700PSS in .308 at your opponents center mass at about 100+ yards away without him/her knowing. :smiley:

[QUOTE=xcakid;1239084]Best fighting stance is prone position aiming a 700PSS in .308 at your opponents center mass at about 100+ yards away without him/her knowing. :D[/QUOTE]

well if you’re gonna go that route, then best fighting stance is seated or upright with your finger poised over a big red button that will trigger nuclear destruction for your enemy, his family, all the people he knew, his neighbours, and everyone else within a 25km radius of the ass kicking.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1239091]well if you’re gonna go that route, then best fighting stance is seated or upright with your finger poised over a big red button that will trigger nuclear destruction for your enemy, his family, all the people he knew, his neighbours, and everyone else within a 25km radius of the ass kicking.[/QUOTE]

^^ This guys Wins!!

In all seriousness, there is no such thing as “the best fight stance” or “the best technique” if there was, it would be the only thing taught in Martial Arts and that would be it. Done, no arguments, no counters. Think about it. Why would anyone want teach/learn anything else. If you truly have a proven “best” out there.

Bottom line, its only “best” until someone figures out a counter or ups the ante (like in bringing a gun to a boxing match) There is a counter for everything. Its the execution that counts. And thus just keeps evolving from there.

[QUOTE=xcakid;1239106]“the best technique”… its only “best” until someone figures out a counter …[/QUOTE]

In order to counter something effectively, you will need “ability”. Some “ability” is not that easy to develop. One day my teacher said, “Everything that I have taught you, if you try to use it on me, it won’t work.” I tried and he was right. Not only he was stronger than me, he would interrupt my move in the initial stage.

Sometime even if your opponent knows the counter, since his “ability” has not been developed at certain level, his counter won’t work.

Here is an example. If this “eyebrow mopping” counter always works, nobody would train “head lock”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWI6Pzseisw&feature=youtu.be

This is the ancient Chinese spear-shield contradiction. When you put a spear to against a shield, that spear may penetrate that shield. Also that spear may not be able to penetrate that shield.

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/5666/spearshield.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/5230/spearshield1.jpg

There is a counter for every action. This is where foresight becomes your friend.

[QUOTE=Syn7;1239114]There is a counter for every action. This is where foresight becomes your friend.[/QUOTE]

If you know the counters, you can interrupt that counter before it gets full strength. In grappling, a quick shaking can destroy almost all counters.

When you get hold on your opponent’s arm, if he tries to kick you, you shake him. If he tries to punch you, you shake him. If you are familiar with shaking but your opponent is not, you have advantage.