Keep in mind that partials are a good thing to supplement your pushup program with, but if you only do them and don’t ever do full range pushups you will be missing out.
I think the way they are integrated into the program that was linked on the first page is excellent, because I have had good results with that program even though I never finished it
On a side note, I tried emailing the author of that program a while ago but my email was returned to me. I told him a bunch of us at KFO really liked his program
I’ll keep that in mind when I start ‘cheating’ again… I hate push ups…
GDA - besides forearm curls… grab a couple heavy DB and try a farmers walk… hell on your legsand shoulders but keeping an iron grip on those DB’s will burn up those forearms too…
that sounds like a good exercise, and one i might try in another rutine, but i don’t want to add too much into pavel’s if it can fu ck it up. i really like the curls because they are simple, completely isolated, and work like a muthf ucka.
Originally posted by GunnedDownAtrocity
[B]i gots a question iron fist.
i know you said it aint a good idea to add anything to pavel’s programs as they work because of their simplicity, but would something as isolated as inner and outer forearm curls hurt?
i wonder because im thinking of ordering his book and so far that’s the only thing i would want to add to any of the routines listed.
i know forearm curls aren’t going to do much for overall strength, but i like having big forearms and my simple routine with them gave me awesome re****s. [/B]
GDA,
Dude, I just spend like 5 minutes writing an answer for you because I thought you asked about biceps curls. I just reread it and noticed that you said FOREARM curls. Duh.
Ok. I would say go ahead, however, if you’re doing a PTP cycle, cut out the forearm curls as you approach the end of the cycle becaues deadlift is heavily dependent upon the grip, in which the forearms play a large role. So, if your forearms are fatigued from heavy training, you won’t be able to hold on to the bar for a heavy deadlift. If you’re doing PTP with squat instead of deadlift, then it might be a bit easier, but remember that forearms are also important in benching. And same thing if you’re doing pullups in the cycle. You won’t be able to hold on to the bar.
However, heavy deadlifting may make your forarms look more dense. That’s always good.
So, use your own discretion. If you feel that forearm work is causing your deadlift or anything to be hindered, then I would back off.
You could always do low reps with a Captains of Crush gripper. You won’t gain much size but you’ll get a greatly improved grip.
To add to IronFist’s reply to GDA…
In addition to the forearm workout you get by doing deadlifts, I’d recommend doing pullups (weighted) and Kettlebell swings. Both these work your grip and forearms.
Give it a shot, they are more functional exercises than just doing forearm curls…
kempo guy .. the only reason i really do the forearm curls at all is for vanity’s sake. they are the absolute best thing i have found for putting on size very quickly on the forearms.
are kettele bell swings anything like the dumbell swings? with a dumbell i would arc the weight in front of my body thumb facing me … rotate to thumb out when it got to my shoulder … finish the rep by arcing down the outside of my body.
I hear you bro… I do some chin-ups and Kettlebell curls for my biceps for vanity’s sake as well. All I know is that swinging the KB’s around has made my forearms very dense.
The swings done with actual KB’s would be similar to what you see above except you would have you palm facing towards you at the start (at the bottom of the lift) of the exercise and lift without rotating your hand. Another difference with KB’s would be the displaced center of gravity, so the swing actually feels a little different than using a dumbell. There’s also the difference in the grip, the KB grip is considerably “fatter” than a dumbell, which further aids in developing strength in your grip and forearms.
KB’s aren’t for everybody, I know a few people that didn’t care for it but personally I DIG IT!