anyone know the origin of the wu-shu drunken fist sets,drunken sword, etc?
Who created them?
When were they created?
(I am not speaking of the eight drunken immortals set, but of the contemporary wu-shu set)
auspicious question
Read Wu Di: The Power of Smooth: Skills of a Drunken Swordsman By Emilio Alpanseque in our 2010 November/December issue, on the newsstands now.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1052134]anyone know the origin of the wu-shu drunken fist sets,drunken sword, etc?
Who created them?
When were they created?
(I am not speaking of the eight drunken immortals set, but of the contemporary wu-shu set)[/QUOTE]
someone made it up to capitalize on the popularity of the jackie chan movies. 
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1052134]anyone know the origin of the wu-shu drunken fist sets,drunken sword, etc?
Who created them?
When were they created?
(I am not speaking of the eight drunken immortals set, but of the contemporary wu-shu set)[/QUOTE]
it originated in scene from jet li movie shaolin temple
[QUOTE=bawang;1052394]it originated in scene from jet li movie shaolin temple[/QUOTE]
nah, predates the movie by many years. Jet Li was already 18, and had garnered several National Championships. Wu-Shu Drunken Fist set was being performed in the 70’s in Wash. DC. Lei Lin Jei was 10 at the time.
Jackie Chan’s original Drunken Master was 1978, I imagine it predates that.
Perhaps it has its origins in Chinese Opera. If I recall correctly modern wushu borrowed heavily from Chinese Opera.
It could have a history like Di Tang Quan where an original traditional style had died out and wushu players made one up over it.
One more for the road…
Read my Jan Feb 2005 cover story The Sword and the Chalice: Master Zhang Anji Reveals the Secrets of Drunken Sword.
[QUOTE=wenshu;1052609]Jackie Chan’s original Drunken Master was 1978, I imagine it predates that.
Perhaps it has its origins in Chinese Opera. If I recall correctly modern wushu borrowed heavily from Chinese Opera.
It could have a history like Di Tang Quan where an original traditional style had died out and wushu players made one up over it.[/QUOTE]
no. I am being very specific. The compulsory Wu-Shu drunken fist set.
who designed it, and when?
[QUOTE=wenshu;1052609]Jackie Chan’s original Drunken Master was 1978, I imagine it predates that.
Perhaps it has its origins in Chinese Opera. If I recall correctly modern wushu borrowed heavily from Chinese Opera.
It could have a history like Di Tang Quan where an original traditional style had died out and wushu players made one up over it.[/QUOTE]
di tang never died. di tang is 9 rolls and 18 breakfalls.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1052642]no. I am being very specific. The compulsory Wu-Shu drunken fist set.
who designed it, and when?[/QUOTE]
Modern Zuijiuquan was codified by Cai Longyun in the 1950’s.
r.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1052134]anyone know the origin of the wu-shu drunken fist sets,drunken sword, etc?
Who created them?
When were they created?
(I am not speaking of the eight drunken immortals set, but of the contemporary wu-shu set)[/QUOTE]
bunch of traditional guys getting together, drinking heavily, coming up w something PRC PC, the usual…
Not Cao, Shao
The King of Zuiquan is Shao Shankang, an 8th duan master born in Zhejiang in 1934. He was a disciple of Wang Ziping and was responsible for most of the development of the modern wushu version of zuiquan and zuijian. He first showcased his routine in 1953 at the First National Traditional Sports Meet in China. Shao was the co-author of Zuijiuquan: A Drunkard’s Boxing, published in the early 80’s with 9th duan master Cai Longyun. For more on this, see page 32 in the aforementioned current issue, our 2010 November/December issue.
[QUOTE=bawang;1052652]di tang is 9 rolls and 18 breakfalls.[/QUOTE]
You mean Jiu Zhuan Shi Ba Die?
Have you seen that or know who practices it?
Thank you for any help you can give in regard to this.
Kevin
[QUOTE=bawang;1052652]di tang never died. di tang is 9 rolls and 18 breakfalls.[/QUOTE]
I’m no martial arts scholar so help me out. You don’t mean the wushu routine right?
What about this (aside from the obvious racial handicap):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIYPLT5NI1g&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=xlL0cLdtSlk
[QUOTE=Tainan Mantis;1053297]You mean Jiu Zhuan Shi Ba Die?
Have you seen that or know who practices it?
Thank you for any help you can give in regard to this.
Kevin[/QUOTE]
its not a form. its just 9 rolls and 18 breakfalls.
Tainan Mantis,
I have read about the 9 falls and 18 rolls in reference to a fighting competitor back in the 70’s. He was from the Praying Mantis style. The impression I got was that it was a high level form. Since the person was from Hong Kong, it may still exist there. You may want to check with some of the associations there for info and contacts.
mickey
Getting drunk and fisting people, am I the only one that sees the wrongness of this?
“Getting drunk and fisting people”?
sanjuro ronin,
I see you are still painting strange pictures with your words.
I forgive you. I know there are still people out there still mourning the loss of Bob Guccione. Just let it out, Brother. Let it out!!!
mickey
9 tumbles, 18 falls
Coincidentally, our next issue (Jan Feb 2011 - on newsstand in early Dec) has an article on ditangquan. I’m going to give y’all a little taste, a little tease…
Ditangqaun was first mentioned in the fist form manuscript, Ji Xiao Xin Shu (New Book Recording Effective Techniques), written by the famous general Qi Jiguang in the Ming Dynasty (1527-1587 CE). It was described as the “leg work of Grandmaster Li and the tumbling skill of Grandmaster Zhang”
Note that I’ve omitted the Chinese characters in this excerpt.
Seriously, you guys would know all the answers to all this stuff if you just read Kung Fu Tai Chi. 
[quote=geneching;1054055]coincidentally, our next issue (jan feb 2011 - on newsstand in early dec) has an article on ditangquan. I’m going to give y’all a little taste, a little tease…
Note that i’ve omitted the chinese characters in this excerpt.
Seriously, you guys would know all the answers to all this stuff if you just read kung fu tai chi. [/quote]
ooowwnnneeedd!!!