By now, most of you know that for the fun of it, I will try new ideas, programs, etc. if they at least for the most part seem legit - it’s like a hobby of mine. Well, my workplace gym has an onsite nutritionist and I went to see her for diet advice - I fluctuate betwee like 220 and 230 - which makes me the lightest of the super heavyweights in judo and bjj competitions. I’m going to cut down to about 218, so I will be on the heavier end of the heavyweight division.
Anyway, she reccomends this diet where I can have 4 servings of fruit, 4 of dairy (but I can’t have whole milk and various other fatty dairy products), 11 servings of grain, 5 servings of veggies and 3 servings of meat. Keep in mind that the sevings are small - one cup of cereal = 1 serving of grain. Meat servings are limited to THREE OUNCES!!! So, I should only be eating 9 ounces of meat per day, which I frankly think sucks.
i could be presupposing, but that doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. especially suggesting all that carbohydrate and so little room for protein numminess.
i’d scrap that diet and go with what your insight tells you would be the best way to drop a few pounds.
You need protein to gain strength and/or muscle. No if’s, and’s. or but’s. To lose weight, I’d say it’s better to keep your protein intake at least 1g/lbs of bodyweight and limit carbs and calories.
A little OT but the nutritionist at our local food coop is obese and has bad skin. I disagree with most of what they have written in our newsletter. It’s very dissappointing how little most licenced nutritionist I have encountered know. Some of the diet advice is harmfull. I could blame the colleges, but shouldn’t common sense reign?
If you are just losing this weight for the fight, why not just drop weight like most other fighters do and focus on water weight? You are only trying to lose 2-12 lbs depending on whether you are 220 or 230. Sitting in a sauna and taking a lot of fibre and laxative should do it much quicker. I think following your nutritionists suggestion will allow you to lose the weight as well…unfortunately it’s going to be the muscle loss that drops your weight.
Dehydrating obviously isn’t the safest thing to do, but if you are talking about just for one day then it’s the most common thing. Just rehydrate/carb up after weigh in.
It’s just an experiment. I know she was full of it on the protein thing though. There’s no way I could make it on 9 ounces. My muscles would just fall right off of me like a barrel over niagra falls.
Yeah, 9 ounces is going to approximate out to maybe 50g of protein. I am guessing she is going by the little FDA food recommendation list. Good thing to know that people can become certified and then they are probably prescribing turn-key diets based on some laminate card they have in a binder or some crap like that. No point wondering if you are an athlete or if your body has any additional needs a sedentary 150lb male might not have.
most recommendations that i’ve found that are flawed come from data like the RDA standards, which suffers from two big drawbacks: it’s representationally flawed and archaic.
why it’s archaic is pretty obvious, but what i want to point out is that the big flaw with RDA is that it’s usually a minimum quantity established to keep people from getting sick due to malnourishment. but many people take these numbers to think that those are the preferred amounts to get, not necessary minimums. 50g or protein will keep my body from cannibalising too much of my own muscle mass if i take a month off from exercise, but most of us here are quite active, and 50g of protein per day will do nothing for growth and only fulfill a majority, but not all, of the amount of protein needed to maintain stasis. try for growth, and you’re SOL.
same thing holds true for many micronutrients. if you’re active, you need that much more vitamin and mineral intake to keep up.
Well if 9 ounces of meat is 50 grams of protein
4 servings of milk is about 32 grams of protein
4 servings of fruit is about 4 grams of protein
5 sevings of vegetables lets say for arguments sake is about 10 grams of protein(probably more)
11 servings of grains has to be at least 44 grams of protein(probably more).
Adding this all up you get about 140 grams of complete protein. I would say that is more than enough considering all you need is about 1 gram per kilogram of body weight. If you feel like this is not enough, add a turkey sandwich or protein shake to your diet.
If you want to lighten up, laying off of the meat (espcially red), will definately have an effect. I think a small part of it is that heavy meats may just stay in your body longer, not to mention the fat content. I’ve heard of a lot of no carb diets to lighten up as well, but I wouldn’t deprive yourself of more then one food source at a time. As far as protien goes, you can still get a healthy amount from nuts (& peanut butter), beans, milk, and sports bars/shakes. A friend of mine had to lose some weight for a competion, so he didn’t eat any red meat, did a lot of aerobic exercise, and here’s the kicker, spent an hour after working out in the sanna (spelling?) to get rid of water weight.
I don’t know how true it is but I’ve heard that red meat does stay in you for a long time… I’ve heard that some corpses have 10lbs of un digested red meat sitting in their intestines.
Anyone know if this is true or not?
I mean with real info to back it up with, not info from a colonic clinic webpage.
