I heard that different types of protein can have negative effects on your muscles flexibility. Does anyone have any knowledge of this? If so, should I cut out certain food groups that contain such a detrimental protein? Which ones?
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I’m not sure about this, but I guess the fact that ballerinas, gymnasts, and contortionists follow a strict diet may indicate that this is the case.
Sorry I can’t help more than that.
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"I heard that different types of protein can have negative effects on your muscles flexibility. "
Um, no. There’s no such thing as a protein that can have “negative” effects on your muscles or anything else.
Protein maintains muscle, and repairs broken down muscle. It’s good to eat.
Iron
Ironfist,
Protein does build muscle etc, and yes is probably not detrimental to muscle tissue (I am not sure as I am not qualified in this area) but certain proteins may affect the flexibility of muscle tissue.
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“but certain proteins may affect the flexibility of muscle tissue.”
Eh? Can anyone substantiate this claim with research?
The only way protein can affect the flexibility is if you get large muscles and don’t stretch. Then you will have flexibility problems.
Iron
The reason I said may, and also pointed out that I am not qualified to substantiate this statement, is because as I stated previously ballerinas, gymnasts, and contortionists usually follow a very strict low-protein diet to help maintain their flexibility. If you want harder evidence then I am sorry but I cannot provide it, and if you want to ridicule me for posting feel free to do so 
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No! protein does not inhibit flexibility, your body metabolises and breaksdown foods you ingest and aminos are generated from the proteins to help maintain your bodies muscular system.
toxins like alcohol in your bloodstream can affect flexibility due to the acid build up and natural dehydration that takes place within your body, the less water in your muscles the weaker and less able to conract or stretch.
your tendons and cartilidge condition is also a factor in your ability to maintain flexibility but again proteins do not in any way hinder your flexibilty in fact it helps your muscles stay in good condition ..
Ive had yoga teachers say the same thing, that animal proteins limit flexibility. However its definetly not true and there are some studys that suggest diets high in simple carbs can limit flexibility. If you check out the Stadion publishing site they used to have some info in there newsletters about these studies..
I gaurantee you that gymnists do not eat a low-protein diet. Pound for pound they are some of the strongest athletes out there, and they would NOT gain muscle without eating a lot of protein.
That’s almost like saying Bodybuilders get huge from eating low-protein.
Iron
Actually, research has shown that stretching stimulates the transport of amino acids (the building blocks of protein) into muscle cells, accelerates protein synthesis inside cells and inhibits protein degradation. Also, the protein elastin promotes flexibility.
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Actually, research has shown that stretching stimulates the transport of amino acids (the building blocks of protein) into muscle cells, accelerates protein synthesis inside cells and inhibits protein degradation .
-SevenStar©
Those who say “BJJ is superior!” are just repeating what they’ve been told and are too inexperienced to comment. Once you’ve been there and done that you know to never say never or that one is not always better than the other.
Actually, research has shown that stretching stimulates the transport of amino acids (the building blocks of protein) into muscle cells, accelerates protein synthesis inside cells and inhibits protein degradation.
-SevenStar©
Those who say “BJJ is superior!” are just repeating what they’ve been told and are too inexperienced to comment. Once you’ve been there and done that you know to never say never or that one is not always better than the other.
Something screwy is going on with the backend systems of this board…
-SevenStar©
Those who say “BJJ is superior!” are just repeating what they’ve been told and are too inexperienced to comment. Once you’ve been there and done that you know to never say never or that one is not always better than the other.
Something screwy is going on with the backend systems of this board…I noticed that it displays posts, but slowly. Server may need to be rebooted or something.
-SevenStar©
Those who say “BJJ is superior!” are just repeating what they’ve been told and are too inexperienced to comment. Once you’ve been there and done that you know to never say never or that one is not always better than the other.
amino acids
If I remember correctly from recent reading on the subject, there are 22 amino acids essential for health. 9 of these must be eaten in food and the other 13 can either be sourced from food or made within the body by recombining the essential 9.
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Too much protein
If you eat too much protein then your flexibility will suffer. First of all the muscles next to your tendons will over exert themselves in an attempt to use all the protein, thus diffusing (taking) ingredients needed for respiration from your tendons, making you feel “stiff” or unflexible for long periods of time.
Secondly, you can get protein defficiancies which although they don’t directly affect your flexibilty, your not gonna do much flexibility exercises in a hospital bed.
It would be good if you researched something before you say it Ironfist.
K.
Kairo
(All quotes courtesy of Kairo, my replies in bold)
“It would be good if you researched something before you say it Ironfist.”
Whoa, chill out there tough guy. First of all…
“If you eat too much protein then your flexibility will suffer.”
Perhaps it is possible to eat too much protein and become less flexible, but the “suffering” of “flexibility” is most definately NOT direcly correlated to an increase in protein intake.
“First of all the muscles next to your tendons will over exert themselves in an attempt to use all the protein,…”
Where the hell did you get this info from? Any left over protein is stored as fat. Your muscles don’t go “oh crap guys, we have to use ALL this protein!” They use what is required (providing you eat a sufficient amount), and the body stores the rest.
“…thus diffusing (taking) ingredients needed for respiration from your tendons, making you feel “stiff” or unflexible for long periods of time.”
And just what part in “respiration” do your tendons play?
“Secondly, you can get protein defficiancies which although they don’t directly affect your flexibilty, your not gonna do much flexibility exercises in a hospital bed.”
Um, if you don’t eat enough protein you may get protein deficiancies, true, they won’t affect your flexibility much, but it will absolutely KILL your strength. Don’t believe me? Find an ectomorph who has bulked up (I say use an ecto because their faster metabolism will allow you to see results faster) and deprive him of protein for a day or two. Watch both his strength and muscle mass plummet. My case in point earlier was that there is no way a gymnist could survive in his sport of a low protein diet. Gymnists are some of the strongest people around, thus they require a high level of protein to build/maintain their strength
Additionally, what was the relevance of the “hospital bed” remark? Please elaborate.
Iron
sorry kairo
but i have to totaly agree with iron here. i’ve heard exactly the same things that he is saying. even at the gym i go to i’ve read on a letter which states that your body just pisses or shits out the extra protein or even stores it as fat. but i have never even remotely heard of your body trying to use every last bit of protein you put into you body. sorry to say here but it sounds like your wrong here to me. i also would like to hear where you came up with this info.
saochoy
[This message was edited by saochoy10 on 06-12-01 at 10:08 PM.]
That has got to be one of the stupidest things Iv’e ever heard. The only part of your body that can be stressed by too much protein is your kidneys. And that is because like Iron Fist said you excrete the extra nitrogen from the metabolised protein in your urine, And this problem is non-existant if your taking in enough fluids.
Does anyone have any good protein to bodyweight ratios, both for normal and active people??? 