No more use for traditional weapons?

Who said that we don’t face traditional weapons in our everyday life.

Here is a story from the Sun:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003262028,00.html

Even over here in the last few years we saw an increase of murders and attacks by people that use traditional weapons.

With MA weapons now being freely sold via the Net and many of then coming pre-sharpened I still see a big danger coming from traditional weapons.

And in such attack cases I feel that modern self defense methods and weapons will not work that good.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.

What are “traditional weapons”?

Like swords and staffs and crossbows?

Im a big fan of flexible weapons.

:eek:

Originally posted by yenhoi
What are “traditional weapons”?
Like swords and staffs and crossbows?

Yep, these days anybody can go online or walk into a MA shop pick up a weapon and a video on how to use it.

While I like the easier access to the info and goods, I am still somehow split in my Opinion if it is a good thing.

Personally, I feel you should be given/sold a weapon by your Sifu when you are ready to train with it.
Or only be able to buy one with a cert from your Sifu or similar.


Im a big fan of flexible weapons.
:eek:

I like flexible wapons too,
Learned to use a few.

BTW, I doubt if the attacker in that article went through proper training with his weapon or even attendet a MA school.

Cheers.

The trouble is, you can’t set any good guidelines for something like that. What’s to stop someone from making up a recommedation from an imaginary sifu? You’d need to have all the MA instructors in the world registered with a recognised body.

That ain’t gonna happen.

This is really no different to some nutcase shooting someone randomly or stabbing them with a pocket knife. You can’t control the inanimate object doing the damage. You have to control the people not to be such ruthless idiots. Obviously, sometimes you’re still going to get an idiot.

Look at Columbine in America and Port Arthur in Australia. There’s two countries with drastically different gun ownership laws but very similar tragedies. Of course, that sort of thing is much more common in the US, but that’s a whole different thread! :wink:

Originally posted by Serpent
[B]The trouble is, you can’t set any good guidelines for something like that. What’s to stop someone from making up a recommedation from an imaginary sifu? You’d need to have all the MA instructors in the world registered with a recognised body.

That ain’t gonna happen.[/B]

Actually it is happening in quiet a few countries already.

All you would need is a background check of Sifu name and school in a national register of MA schools.

You open a school you get registered as a MA teaching business/Institution.

Foolproof, no, nothing is.

Why worry about the WHOLE world, no weapons sold to tourists.

Over here we got membership cards for Dojo’s/Kwoon’s which reflect if your memberhsip is up to date(actively training) or not.

[Edit]
Another advanatage of getting your weapons via your instructor would be quality control of said equipment.
I have seen some nasty accidents involving cheap or badly serviced gear.
[/Edit]

Cheers.

Show of hands.

How many people here read the article I linked to?

I have. The problem is that these weapons are available from too many non MA sources. The majority of live bladed katanas are sold to people who don’t do MA. These are people who’ve seen Highlander and Blade and think it would be cool to have one.

LC: sorry to go off topic, but what the heck is that bull doingin the avatar? :smiley:

dawood

does’nt FMA train traditional weapons..?

Originally posted by dezhen2001
[B]LC: sorry to go off topic, but what the heck is that bull doingin the avatar? :smiley:

dawood [/B]

Not too sure. Hard to find an Avatar of a Cow/Bull.
:smiley:

Hope you are enjoying it down under, have a Two Dogs for me.

Cheers.

Originally posted by Ben Gash
I have. The problem is that these weapons are available from too many non MA sources. The majority of live bladed katanas are sold to people who don’t do MA. These are people who’ve seen Highlander and Blade and think it would be cool to have one.

I fully agree.

Permission from your sifu to purchase a traditional weapon? I can’t imagine a blackmarket for chain whips. :slight_smile:

What are the constituitonal ramnifications for regulating the ownership of daos?

I think it would be pretty silly to register MA’ists and their fancy swords. All objects are weapons, if they cant get a katana to kill you with, they will use something else.

Weapons dont cause the problems, stupid people do.

Get rid of stupid people, shoot them into the sun once a year or something. Old people too.

:eek:

Originally posted by Judge Pen
[B]Permission from your sifu to purchase a traditional weapon? I can’t imagine a blackmarket for chain whips. :slight_smile:

What are the constituitonal ramnifications for regulating the ownership of daos? [/B]

What constitutional ramificatmifications, the majority of the people on earth don’t follow US laws of the US constitution.

Cheers.

Originally posted by Laughing Cow
[B]

What constitutional ramificatmifications, the majority of the people on earth don’t follow US laws of the US constitution.

Cheers. [/B]

That’s why there would be a blackmarket. :slight_smile:

I just figured that we were dealing with US law since the article you linked occurred in the US.

Judge,
I don’t know which article you read, but the one LC linked to is in the UK, not US.

Oops. You are right. I apologize.

Nanny State

I agree with cow on this.
Weapons should only be made available through the sifu/school.
Because this took place in the U.K the goverment here are famous for their knee jerk reation banning the offending item.
Remember the big fuss over “Devil Dogs” the pitbull? Irresponsible owners let their dogs attack and maim people.THe end result? the All pitbull owners had to have their dogs catrated/sterelized and registered.So once the last dog dies theoretically no more pitbulls.Everyone suffered .
The same could be applied to hand guns.
Some nut runs riot through a school and kill kids with a number of handguns.
i don’t intend to make light of that situation it’s just too terrible for words
But the goverment leaps off the deepend and bans all handguns over a certain calibre.Even in registered gun clubs.The situation got so bad that at one point olympic competitors in certain calibre divisions may not have been able to compete because they are not allowed to own the gun.
HOw long before they latch onto MA weapons?
It won’t be the “nut” who suffers because as it has already been pointed out they’ll just find another way hurt people.No, it will be the MA practitioner who loses out on an integral part of their training because they cannot obtain the weapons to train with.
All we can do is make it as difficult as possible for anyone outside of the MA community to get these weapons.

I may be mistaken here, but aren’t MA weapons illegal to possses outside of a school in California and Maryland? I thought I saw a news article about the legislation in Maryland a few months ago.

Yeah, I read the article. That’s pretty scary. My recommendation is that whether it be a sword, a stick, a wrench, a beer bottle or a chair, block the arm, not the weapon.

PLC