this is a new video I posted on youtube.
Hope you enjoy watching it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWfu9qAOSM
Let me know what you think!
Why are you stepping off line when your partner isn’t really doing anything to challenge your center in the first place? (Not trying to pick on you, just curious what this is supposed to be showing..)
And, I find the quote below very ironic when the guy in your clip is doing the exact same thing by pretty much stopping all action to allow you to pull off your ‘5 moves in a half second’:
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234354]Bayer’s videos are always enjoyable to watch. I just wish that the students would put up fight sometime.[/QUOTE]
thank you it is very nice dear
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234354]this is a new video I posted on youtube.
Hope you enjoy watching it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWfu9qAOSM
Let me know what you think![/QUOTE]
What is this drill supposed to be about???
I like his clip because hes doing what he do, and without putting others down like most self-glorified seminars babies do, that learn something one day than teach it like they had it for years. His skills along with his post shows that hes at least being honest.
[QUOTE=JPinAZ;1234396]Why are you stepping off line when your partner isn’t really doing anything to challenge your center in the first place? (Not trying to pick on you, just curious what this is supposed to be showing..)
And, I find the quote below very ironic when the guy in your clip is doing the exact same thing by pretty much stopping all action to allow you to pull off your ‘5 moves in a half second’:[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the question!
You can find the same step in the Wooden Dummny, of course. If you are interested in the form. Wing Chun has many angles of attack and that is called Changing, in our system. It’s awesome, like boxer’s dodge.
And of course, that is my opinion on Bayer’s video and what I’m showing is just a drill, not free sparring 
[QUOTE=Ali. R;1234441]I like his clip because he’s doing what he do, and without putting other’s down like most self-glorified seminars babies do, that learn something one day than teach it like they had it for years. His skills along with his post shows that he’s at least being honest.[/QUOTE]
thank you, glad you like it!
Bogdan , are you Serbian ? You have Serbian name …
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You can find the same step in the Wooden Dummny, of course. If you are interested in the form. [/QUOTE]
The step to the outside within the dummy form isn’t for stepping outside on a live opponent…like in your video :eek:
[QUOTE=HybridWarrior;1234417]What is this drill supposed to be about???[/QUOTE]
Good queston as I’m trying to decipher the odjective of this particular drill ?? Ygkym ..Seung Ma - Forward Attacking Footwork needs work only , arm and no core structure development ? Not trying to knock you mate just calling it how I see it 
[QUOTE=Graham H;1234477]The step to the outside within the dummy form isn’t for stepping outside on a live opponent…like in your video :eek:[/QUOTE]
OF COURSE it is my friend! Inside is quick, outside is safe 
If we ever meet in real life, I can show you how you use it, I can’t explain it in a forum…
[QUOTE=zuti car;1234476]Bogdan , are you Serbian ? You have Serbian name …[/QUOTE]
I’m actually Romanian
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234483]OF COURSE it is my friend! Inside is quick, outside is safe If we ever meet in real life, I’ll be happy to show you how you use it ![/QUOTE]
It can be OF COURSE if you believe what you are told. So I can explain a little to prevent us getting in a bag fight. :rolleyes:
Just as many people wrongly assume that the Wooden Man represents a human being they also take each movement from the form and apply it exactly the way it is shown in the form. However they fail to realize that the dummy is a fixed object. It cannot move left, right, backwards or forwards (only by a fraction) like a live training partner so we have to move AROUND IT. There are many actions in the dummy that are not performed as they would be in chi sau/goh sau because of this.
The forms in Ving Tsun are abstract. They contain exercises that only become useful when executed correctly in chi sau/goh sau and sparring. There are many things inside the system that are there purely to help the development of the students behavior and are NOT fighting applications. If applied exactly the way they are in the forms they do not function correctly in sparring so people adapt them to try and make them work and in the end miss the whole point completely.
Ving Tsun is a very un-natural way of fighting although conceptually makes perfect sense. How can we become accustomed to such un-natural fighting actions and concepts?? We have a series of exercises that gradually develop it. SLT - CK - MYJ - LDBK - BJD and if the sh1t hits the fan then BJ to cut our losses and run :D. They all compliment each other in one way or another but to make them function correctly we have this unique drill called chi sau. Chi Sau is not a fight so we have a bridge…Goh Sau. Goh Sau is still not the finished article so then we move to sparring. After that it all depends on where the individual wants to take it. Competition? Real life street fights? Who knows?
HOWEVER…if you can make that stuff work for you then fair play. As is seen time and time again some guys can make even the worse sh1t work for them.
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234483]If we ever meet in real life, I can show you how you use it, I can’t explain it in a forum…[/QUOTE]
I don’t fancy your chances with that way of moving but I admire your confidence!
Maybe you can become my Teacher. 
[QUOTE=Graham H;1234488]It can be OF COURSE if you believe what you are told. So I can explain a little to prevent us getting in a bag fight. :rolleyes:
Just as many people wrongly assume that the Wooden Man represents a human being they also take each movement from the form and apply it exactly the way it is shown in the form. However they fail to realize that the dummy is a fixed object. It cannot move left, right, backwards or forwards (only by a fraction) like a live training partner so we have to move AROUND IT. There are many actions in the dummy that are not performed as they would be in chi sau/goh sau because of this.
The forms in Ving Tsun are abstract. They contain exercises that only become useful when executed correctly in chi sau/goh sau and sparring. There are many things inside the system that are there purely to help the development of the students behavior and are NOT fighting applications. If applied exactly the way they are in the forms they do not function correctly in sparring so people adapt them to try and make them work and in the end miss the whole point completely.
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How is your behavior in fighting not a fighting application?
Ving Tsun is a very un-natural way of fighting although conceptually makes perfect sense. How can we become accustomed to such un-natural fighting actions and concepts??
As I learned wing chun it is a very natural way of fighting. I think it becomes un-natural when you try to use the wing chun actions in an un-natural way. For instance if our arms are in contact with your arm on top and I try to hit you jum sau is a natural action even the untrained will use it.
We have a series of exercises that gradually develop it. SLT - CK - MYJ - LDBK - BJD and if the sh1t hits the fan then BJ to cut our losses and run :D. They all compliment each other in one way or another but to make them function correctly we have this unique drill called chi sau. Chi Sau is not a fight so we have a bridge…Goh Sau. Goh Sau is still not the finished article so then we move to sparring. After that it all depends on where the individual wants to take it. Competition? Real life street fights? Who knows?
HOWEVER…if you can make that stuff work for you then fair play. As is seen time and time again some guys can make even the worse sh1t work for them.
Interesting because as I learned wing chun it was first application then dummy then form. Chi sau as I learned it was a drill for practicing and sharpening our wing chun movement or action as the drill sort of forces you to use proper wing chun movement to be successful. Just a different perspective.
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234354]this is a new video I posted on youtube.
Hope you enjoy watching it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWfu9qAOSM
Let me know what you think![/QUOTE]
I am assuming that you have posted this video to market your wing chun product. If this is the case then it may perhaps impress complete beginners but since what you show can be performed by most advanced beginners in any wing chun class I do not think it will impress anyone who already practices wing chun.
How is your behavior in fighting not a fighting application?
Our thinking couldn’t be more different. I don’t see a point in continuing to answer you or shall we engage in a forum lovers tiff again? lol
As I learned wing chun it is a very natural way of fighting. I think it becomes un-natural when you try to use the wing chun actions in an un-natural way. For instance if our arms are in contact with your arm on top and I try to hit you jum sau is a natural action even the untrained will use it.
So you think punching with a vertical fist, with the elbow inside the body using one arm to do two actions is natural do you? You don’t need to train then IMO. There is no sticky or arm contact in my system (albeit a fraction of a second) so I cannot answer you.
Interesting because as I learned wing chun it was first application then dummy then form. Chi sau as I learned it was a drill for practicing and sharpening our wing chun movement or action as the drill sort of forces you to use proper wing chun movement to be successful. Just a different perspective.
So we learn two different systems then. No problem is it?
[QUOTE=tc101;1234493]I am assuming that you have posted this video to market your wing chun product. If this is the case then it may perhaps impress complete beginners but since what you show can be performed by most advanced beginners in any wing chun class I do not think it will impress anyone who already practices wing chun.[/QUOTE]
Please send a video reply of your students/colleagues. Thank you!
[QUOTE=Graham H;1234495]Our thinking couldn’t be more different. I don’t see a point in continuing to answer you or shall we engage in a forum lovers tiff again? lol
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Yes yes God forbid people with different perspectives exchange their views.
So you think punching with a vertical fist, with the elbow inside the body using one arm to do two actions is natural do you? You don’t need to train then IMO.
Just because an action is natural does not mean we do not have to practice that action to refine it and get better at it.
Going back to my example of the two arms in contact if the arm on top tries to punch while checking the arm beneath then keeping the elbow down and in which makes a vertical fist is natural. This is why chi sau as I said forces you to use proper wing chun actions to be successful.
There is no sticky or arm contact in my system (albeit a fraction of a second) so I cannot answer you.
I bet you have chi sau in your system so you have a lot of practice with arm contact. It is just an extension to move from what works for more prolonged to shorter lengths of contact. What works for contact works for shorter contact.
So we learn two different systems then. No problem is it?
I do not think we have learned two different systems both are wing chun.
[QUOTE=bogdan.sifu;1234498]Please send a video reply of your students/colleagues. Thank you![/QUOTE]
You posted your video and asked for comments so I commented. You can look on YouTube and find lots and lots of fast hand videos if this is what you want.