Here is a video of GM Ip Ching (GM Yip Man’s youngest son) doing chi sau, is a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnHlLiYmVXA
If you have a good wing chun video please post
Looks terrible to me (imo) no structure just hand chasing at its best
JIm
[QUOTE=jimhalliwell;1198310]Looks terrible to me (imo) no structure just hand chasing at its best
JIm[/QUOTE]
That is what Chi Sao is, isn't it. Just hand chasing? In order to bridge and control ones hands you pretty much have to stay close to them, and that probably requires you to chase them now and then. It is a form of hand grappling really, and it is easier to do on someone that has no clue as to what the heck you are doing.
As terrible as it might look, the big question here is, can you whip either one of them?
Chi Sao is intended to develop sensitivity to an opponent’s movement in order to dial in reactions. One of the major aspects of Wing Chun is sensing your opponent’s energy so that you can deflect or redirect it in order to create the opportunity for a strike. It looks like hand chasing because one participant makes a move and the other moves to counter it. The intent is not to actually strike your opponent but learn how to create and destroy opportunities.
As to whipping either of them, well they wouldn’t be using Chi Sao in a real altercation…
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;1198382]That is what Chi Sao is, isn’t it. Just hand chasing? In order to bridge and control ones hands you pretty much have to stay close to them, and that probably requires you to chase them now and then. It is a form of hand grappling really, and it is easier to do on someone that has no clue as to what the heck you are doing.
As terrible as it might look, the big question here is, can you whip either one of them?[/QUOTE]
Hi
No imo chi sau is not chasing hands at all! I’m attacking the person not his hands (in training) there’s no point looking for someones hands when I can actually exploit his center which in this example of chi sau both their centers are totally open!
With regard to your comment about “can I whip either one of them” with regard to yip ching hes an old man what a crazy question. Regard to sam kwok yes in about 2 seconds if I had to!
jim
ps here is a link to a video showing chi sau and general Ving Tsun in action and as its supposed to be Simple Direct and Efficient! unlike the sam kwok video. Im not a student of Bayer at all just using it as an example of how its supposed to be done keeping it real!
Hi, gotta agree with Jim on this clip.
“Top level”, ummmm…
What happened to attack the body not the hands?
Whats with all the “golden palming”, using palm as bridge rather than forearm, not a good strategy imo.
No wonder people from different arts look at these kind of clips and shake their heads…
Here is one of GM Wan Kam Leung
Wow, the difference between these two clips is like night and day!
Wan Kam Leung is showing nice robust chi sao with good root/structure. I love the fact that it doesnt look “pretty”, normally a sign that the guys rolling are just co-operating with no resistance either side. Always enjoy watching his clips.
And he wears braces!
[QUOTE=chris bougeard;1198492]Wow, the difference between these two clips is like night and day!
Wan Kam Leung is showing nice robust chi sao with good root/structure. I love the fact that it doesnt look “pretty”, normally a sign that the guys rolling are just co-operating with no resistance either side. Always enjoy watching his clips.
And he wears braces![/QUOTE]
Yes wan kam leung looks as good as ever only one comment really its a pity the guys hes working with have no stance! They are sunk so low that’s its impossible to project any forward energy and also its easy for wan kam to pull them around.
jim
Mark Hobbs & Joe Koch chi sau, nice
Here’s an ‘interesting’ one I stumbled upon today. Going to withhold my comments 
[QUOTE=jimhalliwell;1198521]Yes wan kam leung looks as good as ever only one comment really its a pity the guys hes working with have no stance! They are sunk so low that’s its impossible to project any forward energy and also its easy for wan kam to pull them around.
jim[/QUOTE]
Yep, id agree with the stance comment
Wing chun videos, share please 
Kgledhill hass posted a ton of vids of Phil Bayer and his students doing competitive chi sao
[QUOTE=hobbs;1198640]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Elng5OGubs[/QUOTE]
Hi
Do you really have to torture me with this soup mixing Chi sau nonsense? What you learn about Ving Tsun from doing chi sau like this I don’t know! No wonder mma fighters look at this kind of crap and shake their heads I love Ving Tsun but im shaking my head just the same! People imo need to learn what is actual practical training and what is just a waste of your time and money! don’t chase instructors because of their particular lineage go by what you see! and here I see nothing but rubbish!
Jim.
ps this is my opinion and could be mine only?
[QUOTE=jimhalliwell;1198644]Hi
Do you really have to torture me with this soup mixing Chi sau nonsense? What you learn about Ving Tsun from doing chi sau like this I don’t know! No wonder mma fighters look at this kind of crap and shake their heads I love Ving Tsun but im shaking my head just the same! People imo need to learn what is actual practical training and what is just a waste of your time and money! don’t chase instructors because of their particular lineage go by what you see! and here I see nothing but rubbish!
Jim.
ps this is my opinion and could be mine only?[/QUOTE]
It is one thing to look, yet another to feel.
[QUOTE=hobbs;1198649]It is one thing to look, yet another to feel.[/QUOTE]
I have felt and have the same opinion.
Jim
Nice chi sao Mark, nice flow and bringing in clinch/takedown aspects into it.
[QUOTE=jimhalliwell;1198650]I have felt and have the same opinion.
Jim[/QUOTE]
So you have felt that type of chi sau.
Yes I have very early in my Ving tsun research looking into what actually worked best so unlike most people i trained in a lot of lineages including this one before i found out what was best for me. This lineage I found imo to be the most impractical!
Jim