Natural or Learned

Who who’d pound who? A natural fighter who trains a couple years, or a person whose trained about a decade in some MA. Both put in a 100% for the duration of their training.

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Depends on the individuals fighting!

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Hello again!The question is too basic,too many variables to give a simple answer.Probably not the answer you are looking for but still an answer. It is like asking -If a man with no arms fought a man with no legs who would win? :confused:

lol that would be fun to watch. Cripple fight. Jimmy

ok seriously now, sorry but what is a natural fighter?

nutural fighter=a born fighter; e.i. someone who is naturally good at fighting.

o ok, and what is he training for a couple of year?

The style of western Egypt. I don’t know be creative.
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A natural fighter who trains a couple years in ______, or a person whose trained about a decade in _______. Both put in a 100% for the duration of their training.

i would think the latter, cause he would be more experience.

People with natural talent tend not to push themselves as hard, because they rely on thier natural talent to get them by, so, they fall into a comfort zone. It is usually people that are Driven with desire and a goal in mind that far exeed thier own original objectives (i.e. Someone who trains to fight, because they weren’t born with those skills but have great desire to obtain them). Intuitiveness and instinct are also great things, and never to be underestimated though. But,can a trained fighter train intelligently and teach his/her body to react instinctively.

 To answer your question, I would say that it is the fighter that wants to win more who will win.

Who Wants It

I agree with SC. If it’s set up just like CPA says then it’s like an NCAA Championship game. It comes down to a question of who wants it most. This topic is what I hoped the UFC was going to be. Too bad it turned into WWG - We Worship Grapplers. I’m not bashing BJJ. Still a bit off this topic…How do you guys think a BJJ fighter would fare against multiple attackers? Down here in Luavull :wink: we spar two-on-one quite a bit. I’m not familar enough w/BJJ. Do they train for multiple attackers? What about you guys? Ever spar two-on-one?

I’m always a little confused by the point of this question. And I don’t mean that to sound belligerent. But would you feel any more satisfaction from one answer or the other? To me, a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question just isn’t very gratifying.

Stuart B.

“Who who’d pound who? A natural fighter who trains a couple years, or a person whose trained about a decade in some MA. Both put in a 100% for the duration of their training.”

-The fighter who understood fighting best.

-The fighter who had superior conditioning related to how they attack and get damaged.

-The fighter who felt it was O.K. to damage the other person without mercy.

-The fighter who utilized the environment~ to h er/is advantage And benefit.

-The fighter who got Good lucky that the other fighter was remiss in at least one of the afore mentioned.

This fighter who’d pound the other fighter might alternate throughout the fight.

Perhaps somesuch, very good.

Catbus would TOTALLY OWN Spongebob Squarepants!

By which I mean, I’m with Apoweyn on this one.

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I really HATE sponge bob square pants.

I have no particular opinion about him. But I LOVE Catbus!

This isn’t an answer to the question but just a comment on ‘natural’ fighters.

I know 2 people who fit this description. But both of them have trained for over 20 years. A ‘natural’ fighter is going to get more out of training than some one who doesn’t naturally have an aptitude for fighting. Not everyone does, afterall. The two guys I know are just scarily adept at what they have learned.

While there are way to many variable to the question I would offer a simpler question:

Take a ‘natural’ and a ‘not natural’ (assuming that there is indeed a distinction)

Have the same instructor train them the exactly the same and use the exact same sparring partner for both.

In this instance, i think the natural would become a better fighter over the same amount of time.

I think that a good fighter is always a natural fighter. I think the MA can’t make you a fighter, but can only make you a better fighter. You have to have something to build from before you start your training.

hmmm, I think we would need to define “fighter”

to me, a fighter is someone who doesn’t give up.

this could be a boxer in a ring or a single mom who’s ex is a ******* and is doing everything she can for her kids.

so, is being a ‘fighter’ a prerequisite for learning combative techniques?

can you not learn the skills w/o the urge to fight and be just as skilled as a ‘fighter’?

I think Oso has a hot girlfriend.

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