My pics from the meet

OK.

Weird.

:wink:

Not really weird, I can do more pullups behind my neck like that than I can to my chest also. My back is stronger pulling downwards, using the side muscles more than pulling towards the back using the muscles right behind my shoulders. Depends on what you work more, grows in strength more and genetics I guess.

Sure, but it’s funny that a meet would allow/promote a contraindicated exercise. You’d think they would promote proper form and safe practice, that’s all.

Oh, the chiropractor judge told me it’s bad for me. But I told him I’m pretty flexible and I had been training that way cuz the original email said ā€œpalms away, thumbless grip, to the front or back of the neck.ā€ He told me I could probably get away with it now cuz I’m 24 but I shouldn’t do it too much more. I’ll probably listen to his advice :slight_smile:

Thumbless grip? I would’ve refused to do that unless they gave me a logical reason why. How is that going to effect the number of pull-ups you can do?

I would too. :wink:

Still a fine result nonetheless.

Nice work guys. I can’t believe a photo of Iron, usually it’s line drawings and never a face shot. Wow. You’re an ugly mutha :D.

(Gotta bring you down a notch after Foo drooling all over you)

I_F kinda looks like that guy from the first few seasons of Mad TV. The one who did the Poolboy skit.

:eek:

It’s called a ā€œtactical pullup.ā€ It’s like what a SWAT team would do if they had to climb over a wall; there’s nothing to wrap your thumbs around on a wall.

Plus your grip is more likely to slip. Like doing deadlift with a thumbless grip is much harder. Or lifts with a thick bar.

deadlift sequence:

are you supposed to lean back so far when deadlifting?

That’s just an old school lockout, Red. I’d be more worried about the extremely rounded back. I figured it was just because of it being a PR attempt though.

Again, congrats on competing guys.

yeah, regarding the lockout, I just wanted to make sure I locked it out. Plus I was just powering through the sticking point and that was the only direction to go. I was stoked.

Ford’s right because my back rounded less during the previous attempt which was 405. However, I can see that in both cases, my back was rounded when I assumed the start position, before I began pulling. I had kinda discovered this recently and the solution is to lock the upper back before starting, but I basically forgot and went back to my old form since I didn’t deadlift alot in preperation for the meet. Putting the back in its proper place also would help me get my hips down, according to a recent tip I read here:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=818DDA71D527EC1951C16290464FD0BB.titan?id=586815

I don’t think my back is in danger but it does lead to excessive soreness and recovery time. I’ve had problems with my posture ( for years ) and my back will curve a bit like that if I don’t pay attention to it. Especially with long hours at work in front of my computer. What helps it the most is bridging. Need to go back to doing that daily. I’m in the ā€œswitchingā€ phase of the Smolov for squats so when I go back on Smolov I won’t be able to do any other work. After that I should be back into kettlebells and stuff.

I’m also realizing that I want to go on a deadlift peaking cycle because I think that’s the only way to get your form down well in an exercise. Smolov has done loads to increase my squat form proficiency. I’d like to do a bench cycle too but it’s so hard fitting everything in! Thing is, when you are on a cycle, it’s hard to get any other work in involving the targeted muscle groups.

One more thing: I think the rounded back makes my sticking point stickier. The angle isn’t as good as it might be.

Good news is, I think I have the potential to pull more. I have no doubt I will eventually pull 600, barring grip issues in my nerve-damaged hand. At some point I may have to start pulling with straps if my grip can’t keep up.

oh, and the last thing is, case anyone cares, I did not take creatine and I did not stop drinking beer in preparation for the meet :smiley: :cool: I had been sick during alot of the last 2 weeks before the meet and also drove for 7 hours the day before. These last two items didn’t affect me a whole lot, but there is reason to think I’ll be able to do better.

I have bought the CoC grippers and I can close the T in both hands, but not the 1 yet. The right is a good deal stronger than the left due to the aforementioned nerve damage. I severed the ulnar nerve in my left wrist in a skateboarding incident when I was 12. They performed nerve replacement surgery using a piece of nerve from the calf. I got some of the motion back but not all. For instance, I can’t move the fingers from side to side by themselves. The hand is limited but I don’t let it hold me back from much. I even have used it to play piano (not well :stuck_out_tongue: ). I am continuing to increase the strength but I think my pulling strength will surpass my grip strength fairly soon, like in the next 6 months.

hey, that guy with the black T-shirt sitting behind me in the photos pulled 425 too, and he’s only 180 lbs and young. Not as impressive as Ford P of course! But PDG. He was my inspiration because I kept lifting the same weights he did, right after he pulled.

Yeah, that guy who pulled 425 @ 180lbs was strong! That’s my goal. Or at least 4 plates on each side (405).

480-495 would be 3x bodyweight for me right now. I wonder if I could ever get that naturally. If I was ever able to deadlift that much I’d probably weigh more, so then 3x bodyweight would be even higher.

That tool they used to lift the bar up while they loaded the weights on for DL was cool. But, if you use bumper plates, they’re just a little bigger than 45’s so then you don’t need to pick it up. I wish my gym had bumper plates. Hell, I wish my gym had round plates instead of those triangle things. Deadlifting with those is a pain.

what I do with the triangle thing weights, is stagger them so that the flat parts are NOT lined up. The ones at one of the gyms I go to have both round and flat around the circumference. When you stagger the orientation of the plates, the round part of one of the plates is touching the ground at all times. As long as you have at least two plates on each end of the bar it works.

My left’s gone badly downhill. I’ve lost ability with the #2, but strangely the left hand’s endurance is better with the #1. Right hand is the same with #2 (2-3 reps in a row I’ll close). I think it’s because of a nagging little finger injury on the left hand from sparring. How much can you grip double pronated before you start to slip your grip on DL? I go to 320 and I can do 330 but I don’t usually because I care more about the lift than whether I can grip the bar. Never tried higher than 330 without alternating grip. On a side note, I wish they’d make CoCs with different spring orientations. It’s a minor thing, but I’d love to play with a left handed version of them. Foo, think of the extra money Ironmind’d make ;).

On the back - I probably do the same at the end of a cycle or if I’m trying to lift a PR. I feel it later too. One thing I find helps is last thing before the pull I kind of pull my shoulders back and stick my chest out. Feels like you’re lifting your shoulders towards the roof. Like you said, it brings the hips down too.