I’v always used a hip turnover for the round kick.
believe it or not my rear leg round kick is faster than my front leg round kick.
when I started training for the sport jujitsu, I was being coached to use lead leg attacks because they are theoretically faster simply due to distance-to-target but not for me.
‘sipa’, sounds like what we refer to as a ‘dragon’.
rear leg kicking forward and striking with the instep, toe turned out?
I love the rear leg round kick, so many variations kicking up, across, down, etc. I do need to improve my flexibility in my hips as well, but as far as improvement, I guess my side kick has improved the most, but thats just because I really sucked at it before.
‘sipa’, sounds like what we refer to as a ‘dragon’.
rear leg kicking forward and striking with the instep, toe turned out?
I’ve seen the kick done in dragon, yeah. It’s not the instep though. That’s the area between shin and top of the foot, isn’t it?
It’s the underside of the foot. Heel ideally. But yeah, toes pointed outward so your foot hits sorta sideways. Essentially the opposite foot positioning of a sidekick.
I’ve called ‘sipa’ a cross-kick. I hit either with the heel or as a trap with the arch of the foot. I think its very effective as a kick to the legs.
we’re talking about the same kick i think
by instep I meant the arch really. although I have struck with the heel some I’ve always mostly used the kick to attack the knee from front or side and the ankle from the side. i feel that targeting with the arch of the foot you won’t glance off.
good kick from the clinch imo.
It is. It’s quick, hard to block or avoid, and can open up a second or third attack. It takes on another element with shoes as you can rake the shin after contact ala “Wildcat climbe the tree” from Hsing-I.
Originally posted by SevenStar
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Turn your hip over and cut the roundhouse inward and/or downward. turn your base foot as far outward as you can. Use the ground to drive your kicking foot off of. you won’t really need amazing hip flexibility using this method, and you get a ton of power out of it. [/B]
I do that when I use a roundhouse. My target is usually a thigh or calf, so I guess I’m cutting downward like you said. But when I say my hips aren’t flexible, I mean I experience pain in the hip joint if I happen to turn the hips straight during the kick or on impact. In fact, I am unable to do the kick without turning my hip over because I get a sharp pain in the hip joint otherwise.
It even affects things like my horse stance to a degree. I have to turn my feet slightly outward to sit in a decent ma bu.
Originally posted by Oso
[B]we’re talking about the same kick i think
by instep I meant the arch really. although I have struck with the heel some I’ve always mostly used the kick to attack the knee from front or side and the ankle from the side. i feel that targeting with the arch of the foot you won’t glance off.
good kick from the clinch imo. [/B]
Yep, we’re definitely talking about the same kick. The cross kick, as Judge Pen mentioned. (I actually like that term. Makes sense to me.)
Arch! That’s the word I was groping for. Yeah, I think you’re right about the glancing off. The arch helps to negate that. (Especially with my feet. My arch is the size of a bloody Mini.) Can also be used to “catch” and stop kick the opponent’s kicking leg.
I prefer it as a stomping-style kick. But it can also be used as a scooping kick. In fact, I think that’s sort of the default for sipa (if kicks have a default). That it can swing upward for short chops to the shin. I say that based on the idea that “sipa” is the filipino word for a game very similar to hackysack. And that upward scooping kick is what you’d use in hackysack. (Variations of sipa are played throughout SE Asia. The foot-volleyball version played in Thailand is “sepak (sipa) takraw.”)
There you are. Random thoughts on the cross kick. By Jack Handey (read: Stuart Bowen).
Stuart B.
LOL
from the clinch I have a throw/take down I set up by using a cross kick on the far/back/opposite leg and then come back with an outside crescent type kick to the fore/near leg to spread the base then I’ll hip toss or just twist the shoulders down to the mat.
in judo terms this is like sweeping the far leg to set up an uchi mata except the leg doesn’t lift fromt he inside.
I actually sorta kinda pulled this off in a sloppy way at the jujitsu tourney in Oct. If I get the video capture card I’m asking for for Xmas then I’ll get that off the VHS.
Sweet!
several KFM members made offers to capture it for me (which I greatly appreciated!) but I have about 20 VHS tapes from the last few years that I want to capture as well so I want to learn how.
Originally posted by Oso
several KFM members made offers to capture it for me (which I greatly appreciated!) but I have about 20 VHS tapes from the last few years that I want to capture as well so I want to learn how.
I’ve watched Merryprankster convert tape to digital once. As far as I could tell, the process involves a VCR, a digital videocamera, and a jockey named Nigel.
Personally, I have doubts about the necessity of that last part. But MP’s the boss, I guess.
Stuart B.
hmm, sounds like he had a Digital Vid Cam that had AV inputs.
I’ve got the dig cam but it only has AV out.
i’m not touching the bit about the jockey…an englishman and a coastie and a jockey…
i’m not touching the bit about the jockey…an englishman and a coastie and a jockey
Mistakes were made.
well, as long as everyone learned something.
You only need the VCR if the video is on VHS. If you shot the video on digital tape (Hi-8, Digitial-8), then you just download directly from the camera.
If your tape is VHS, you have to use the camera as an intermediary between the VCR and the capture card. You run the VCR into the camera, then plug the camera into the computer. You can then use the VCR controls to control the tape in your editing program.
I’m using IEEE 1394 Firwire technology, though. So I don’t know if other formats need the same setup.
Originally posted by Judge Pen
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That’s what I mean by “cheating” my hip. It seems to work well for me, but the “extra” step in turning your base foot and hip needs a bit of a set-up for the timing to work, ime. [/B]
Off of which leg? off of the front leg, there is no step - you open your hip, then close it as you pivot and turn your hip over. From the rear leg you can do the same thing with no step, or do the step in conjunction with an attack or defense. for example, if you kick me and I do a leg block, as I put my blocking leg down, I turn my leg out and begin my shuffle. Keep in mind that the rear leg roundhouse is used most effectively when you have a person retreating/on the defensive. It’s more of a follow up to a combination, not an initial attack. When used as a follow up, it’s easy to shuffle step into position and then launch the kick.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
[B] I do that when I use a roundhouse. My target is usually a thigh or calf, so I guess I’m cutting downward like you said. But when I say my hips aren’t flexible, I mean I experience pain in the hip joint if I happen to turn the hips straight during the kick or on impact. In fact, I am unable to do the kick without turning my hip over because I get a sharp pain in the hip joint otherwise.
It even affects things like my horse stance to a degree. I have to turn my feet slightly outward to sit in a decent ma bu. [/B]
Ouch.
When I said cutting inward/downward, I meant as the kick lands. You can kick to the head and kick inward, as long as the hip is turned over. By cut, I mean like an extra push. the thai kick, and some styles of karate (the friend I used to train with grew up and trained in japan and he kicked the same way) have the leg bent when the roundhouse is delivered. It doesn’t snap outward, straightening the leg. IME, that seems to detract power from the kick. Since the leg is bent, once it lands, then you attempt to angle the kick downward by turning your hip completely over…kinda hard to explain. that’s what I meant by cutting though. It’s a good technique for making knees buckle.
Hmm… my most improved kick…
Single most improved has probably got to be the hook.
I dont use spinning kicks, but I work the tornado/540 occasionally just cause they look cool, good for impressing people. 
Roundhouse has gotten pretty evil quick too. Gotten good at firing out the sidekick from close in.
tornado/540
Are you saying a tornado is the same as a 540, or that you work on both kicks? What we call a tornado kick is a 360 jumping inside crecent kick.