LOL! And that’s what you ran over here to cry about. Your little feelings got hurt and you had to find someplace where you could sooth your injured pride instead of standing up for yourself (without the “you stupid!” distractions) over there.
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LOL!! you are becoming really entertaining now!! Your standing up for yourself comment might actually have some teeth, except that I have been posting over there earlier today. So ummm how do you see that as running over here to cry now?
It doesn’t “prove” one or the other. Its a single still photograph.
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The pic shows a really difficult stance, done really, really well!!
How did I learn to do the stance properly Hmmmm??? 
I’m pretty sure the entirety of modern bayonet methods were based off of spear techniques, whether eastern(China) or Western(the U.S.). I could be mistaken, but I don’t think so.
Additionally, the only thing geekier than RD’s cat stance argument is following him across the internet to argue about it.
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793808]LOL! And that’s what you ran over here to cry about. Your little feelings got hurt and you had to find someplace where you could sooth your injured pride instead of standing up for yourself (without the “you stupid!” distractions) over there.
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LOL!! you are becoming really entertaining now!! Your standing up for yourself comment might actually have some teeth, except that I have been posting over there earlier today. So ummm how do you see that as running over here to cry now?[/QUOTE]
What are you missing? You can continue to post on other topics, or even continue to lose that argument, but you still keep your little security blanket going over here.
[I]I’m pretty sure the entirety of modern bayonet methods were based off of spear techniques, whether eastern(China) or Western(the U.S.). I could be mistaken, but I don’t think so.
Additionally, the only thing geekier than RD’s cat stance argument is following him across the internet to argue about it.[/I]
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LOL!!! What brought you out for once?
How have you been?
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793810]It doesn’t “prove” one or the other. Its a single still photograph.
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The pic shows a really difficult stance, done really, really well!!
How did I learn to do the stance properly Hmmmm??? :D[/QUOTE]
Its great that you really, really love yourself, but see previous comments re one still photo…:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793816][I]I’m pretty sure the entirety of modern bayonet methods were based off of spear techniques, whether eastern(China) or Western(the U.S.). I could be mistaken, but I don’t think so.
Additionally, the only thing geekier than RD’s cat stance argument is following him across the internet to argue about it.[/I]
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LOL!!! What brought you out for once?
How have you been?[/QUOTE]
Actually, quite good. Spent the summer in Henan, trained sanshou, ate good food, etc.
Mostly been browsing forums for a long time, I only post here and there.
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793810]It doesn’t “prove” one or the other. Its a single still photograph.
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The pic shows a really difficult stance, done really, really well!!
How did I learn to do the stance properly Hmmmm??? :D[/QUOTE]
You don’t need to learn how to do the stance. Just get some crates or whatever and balance in a tough position. Use tough material to help keep your back straight that’s tucked under your shirt. At the same time, you have braces on the side away from the camera keeping you up, while you lean to your left a little to give your muscles a break. Then, you take the crates away and get a camera and set it to take a picture every few seconds on a tripod and you try for days at a time till you got one that can be passed off as authentic.
And some people think I’m a poser. It’s how I can spot the lies so easily. I do it myself!! 
:rolleyes:
Ok, I know I am trying to use logic with the village idiot, but let me ask you this, does that picture not show someone who has been actually taught by a real teacher/s and worked really hard?
It shows you probably worked hard… but you are seriously underestimating the ability of people to learn static postures from video/photos BTW, I thought most of your CMA training was through video (after leaving a phony teacher, and then learning from someone else who learned from video). You talked about if for years, and often defended the ability of someone to learn from video correspondence… how long have you been with a live teacher?
[QUOTE=RonH;793819]You don’t need to learn how to do the stance. Just get some crates or whatever and balance in a tough position. Use tough material to help keep your back straight that’s tucked under your shirt. At the same time, you have braces on the side away from the camera keeping you up, while you lean to your left a little to give your muscles a break. Then, you take the crates away and get a camera and set it to take a picture every few seconds on a tripod and you try for days at a time till you got one that can be passed off as authentic.
And some people think I’m a poser. It’s how I can spot the lies so easily. I do it myself!! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
look
seriously
u arent funny
at all
please dont make jokes
theyre really terrible
seriously
stop
ur cred is tarnished enuff already
for our sakes
stop
It shows you probably worked hard… but you are seriously underestimating the ability of people to learn static postures from video/photos BTW, I thought most of your CMA training was through video (after leaving a phony teacher, and then learning from someone else who learned from video). You talked about if for years, and often defended the ability of someone to learn from video correspondence… how long have you been with a live teacher?
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Correct, and I still do believe you can learn a lot from videos, BUT the details shown in my pic were something I was only able to get from live teachings.
As for how long I have had a teacher, I have allways had live teachers. I generally train with guys in small groups, and not at schools, but I have pretty much allways had real people to learn from. I just don’t really talk about it that much because to do so means bringing names in to the forum, and that often gets me in trouble off the forum, so i just don’t discuss the real people I learn from.
Also, I am not really a style specific person. i do my Tai tzu, and work with various people who can help respective attributes for my Tai Tzu. For example, I have one guy who taught me the really old traditional form, and another local guy I go to for structure an mechanical coaching, and another for push hands, and another for more hands on app work.
I combined all that together around the Tai Tzu forms i know and built the curriculum i teach now.
Pretty much all the forms I originally learned from the books, I have forgotten now anyway. I still use books and video as sources though. Right now my big interest is in Old Time Strong Man training and body weight only conditioning methods. So all my book study is in that area at this time.
Actually, quite good. Spent the summer in Henan, trained sanshou, ate good food, etc
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WOW, that sounds like fun? Were you at one of the big schools there? How did you fund that anyway?
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793839]Actually, quite good. Spent the summer in Henan, trained sanshou, ate good food, etc
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WOW, that sounds like fun? Were you at one of the big schools there? How did you fund that anyway?[/QUOTE]
I wasn’t there to study kung fu, it was business related, plus an opportunity to practice my mandarin. The sanshou guys were all people I befriended, or friends of friends, who wanted to train me, free of charge, as a show of friendship.
You may now be jealous.
gimme an ‘L’ gimme an ‘A’ gimme an ‘R’ gimme a ‘P’…
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;793837] I generally train with guys in small groups, and not at schools, but I have pretty much allways had real people to learn from. I just don’t really talk about it that much because to do so means bringing names in to the forum, and that often gets me in trouble off the forum, so i just don’t discuss the real people I learn from.
Also, I am not really a style specific person. i do my Tai tzu, and work with various people who can help respective attributes for my Tai Tzu. For example, I have one guy who taught me the really old traditional form, and another local guy I go to for structure an mechanical coaching, and another for push hands, and another for more hands on app work.
I combined all that together around the Tai Tzu forms i know and built the curriculum i teach now.[/QUOTE]
Oh man…:rolleyes:
That sort of fits the image, doesn’t it?
[QUOTE=golden arhat;793824]look
seriously
u arent funny
at all
please dont make jokes
theyre really terrible
seriously
stop
ur cred is tarnished enuff already
for our sakes
stop[/QUOTE]
I’m very funny. I just have a limited amount of reference material to work with. And, if you’re talking about the credibility I have with a select group of people on this board, it isn’t my problem you lot didn’t want to listen to what I was saying. But, it’s no skin off my nose.
So, military styles?
Military Styles? We are talking military styles right? Because I thought that we were dicussing military styles. Considering the title is “military styles question”.
So, military styles right? Yes? Awesome.
If I am correct Hsing Yi was used in the Sino-Japanese War. It was in Gene’s article on Hsingyi Dadao(which was pretty sweet) which was about how we over look the use of swords in military when they were used as close as a few decades ago(ww2 ish).
Also, kung fu is still being taught to several (US) military units around the country. Krav Maga is basically kung fu when you look at it and break it apart. Muay thai is pretty close to leopard style. the kung fu is there you just have to look for it. Military styles being filled with fluff? Nah. It’s just the way you look at it. If you are using only the forms to go by, of course it’s going to look that way the the untrained eye, but if you see the true essence of the style you can see it used for military purposes.
I suppose that the majority of military styles would have many weapon sets (Hsing yi traditionally tesches the weapons first and empty hand second). For today’s purposes knife and gun sets would have to be used to give it that miltary feel. Krav Maga does that very well.
I hope this helps and moves the discussion back to the topic,
WF
[QUOTE=ittokaos;793975]Also, kung fu is still being taught to several (US) military units around the country. [/quote]Which ones?
Krav Maga is basically kung fu when you look at it and break it apart.
No, it isn’t. That’s the whole point: when you take it apart it is many other arts taken apart and stripped down to the basics, so to imply kungfu has no fluff because krav maga has no fluff is pish.
Muay thai is pretty close to leopard style.
That’s why Leopard style is so famous! :rolleyes: And your point is? Thai is not a military art per se.
the kung fu is there you just have to look for it.
Nope. It isn’t. It’s like that old gag that because Chuck Liddel does XYZ punch and it looks like the XYZ punch from kung fu that kung fu is therefore in the UFC…! :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=unkokusai;793866]Oh man…:rolleyes:
That sort of fits the image, doesn’t it?[/QUOTE]
I’ll second that and raise you a “King of the LARPers” award.
Nope. It isn’t. It’s like that old gag that because Chuck Liddel does XYZ punch and it looks like the XYZ punch from kung fu that kung fu is therefore in the UFC…!
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Um Liddel DOES use Kung Fu punches!! Heck, one of his trade marks is right out of the Shaolin 32 posture Tai Tzu form!
You’re a very silly boy.