Than please kindly stop spouting off as if you have something to contribute. Or if you want us to take your arguments seriously you call up your buddy Lee and ask him if he can still do his jumping feats. If he says “yes” than get it on tape. If he says “no” ask him if one of his students can.
I dont really care if I quote Yoda either. I didnt see Christ walk on water but I believe it.
So… let me get this straight… you actually believe that Yoda levitated an X-Wing fighter in a galaxy far-far away? No, wait, you just don’t know how to organize your arguments in a cohesive manner.
Yeah, I don’t believe that Jesus did magic tricks either. So far your arguments have included a puppet and a man who probably never existed and who certainly wasn’t a deity.
So you guys spend time debating something you cant prove or disprove.
That’s the thing. I’m not trying to disprove anything. I’m simply taking the position of the sceptic and saying if you want me to believe something than you will have to prove it.
I am not thirteen and trained longer than most of you have been alive.
Well your grammar says otherwise… That and your “shotgun” approach to punctuation. Tell you what Mr. I don’t have to prove myself to you, I can spout off whatever I like on the internet, logic doesn’t matter: put your money where your mouth is. I have a throwdown in the works for september of this year in Shanxi, China. I know, it’s out of the way, but show up, SHOW ME, and if you do a good job I will admit that you were right.
Simon M My grammar is not there to impress you. You are not worthy. I did not know grammar was such a big deal. So , you know grammar so what? Any way just shut up you should just go eat some fish heads and rice and call it a day. I would not wast my time to try to prove anything to you. I dont fight for sport those days are gone. So get a JOB and understand this You are an As/ know what I mean. FU KC:(
Simon M You are a joke If I wanted to impress you with grammar it would be easy to do. I have known many who teach english. How hard is that. Look at the syntax. BTW why dont we have a friendly match when you return to the states Ill be waiting for your return KC JUst post when you are in the states.
It seems that by performing silly stunts and feats of strength and endurance we can con some into thinking we can fight. Perhaps training to do stunts is a relatively effective form of self-defense training! If I can scare someone else into thinking I have amazing abilities I don’t have to actually fight them. I think it is called “bluffing”!! However, one unpleasant consequence is we end up with goofballs, wearing martial arts clothing and pulling trains with their testicles, representing the Martial Arts community.
Silly stunts say nothing about ones ability to fight; only that one can perform silly stunts.
Um… I’m a Canadian. I don’t generally go to the United States. However if you can’t afford to come to China I’ll be happy to let you know when I am back in Canada and where. Will be at least 15 months from now though since I just agreed to sign on for another year out here.
I have been hit by an internal punch that sent me flying backwards like an express elevator and the puncher barely moved. I am sure that it is not mystical and that all magic is science unexplained, but still, unexplained science surely exists. One thing that stands out to me in this argument is the emotional and intense denial of possibility by so many. Public sentiment is often a contrary indicator.
we’ll actually know this or not after the general academia gets to look over the essene’s scroll colection which has been denied to all academia by the Jesuits since tehy were found with only one or two highly specialized people being allowed to access them.
People try to cite roman judiciary records as well, but apparently, there is nothing solid there either.
So, Jesus is not 100% historically proven. He is still quite firmly embedded in the realm of Mythos like Thor.
there are reems and reems of people who use sophism to the nth degree to argue the ‘actual’ existance of a man named jesus etc etc, but the evidence isn’t as solid as say John the Baptist who was a much bigger trouble maker and hit a lot of radars in his day ergo there are more fragments of history about him.
anyway, just saying that one could likely at this point in time win an argument based on factual evidence that Jesus of Nazareth did not actually exist and instead is a conglomorate of myths, archetypes and ideals rolled into a figure that was elevated to the godhead and used as a catalyst to bind people to the geo-political will of the church.
Would there be a point to being Catholic if evidence for all of it existed? There wouldn’t. If there’s evidence then I would have to believe…I would have no choice, in other words, there would be no reason for God to reward me for choosing to believe.
Of course I didn’t see Christ… “Blessed are those who believe and have not seen.” All this arguing about evidence is pointless from a religious point of view. I have to be glad that there is no evidence so that I can have faith.
I’m Roman Catholic. I have faith. Pretty much end of story for me. The Bible is the only source.
Sorry to change the subject. But the Catholic faith seems to pop up here and there on this forum where it shouldn’t. Usually it’s a discussion about evidence and I thought I might as well comment.
I don’t think it’s popping up where it shouldn’t, conversations and discourse naturally turn when connections are made in some way either big or small.
And like any faith, there is certainly room for questions.
there’s likely a lot of Catholics who participate on this board, so making lines between supernatural powers in human and the citing of Jesus or the Buddha isn’t that big of a leap really.
As far as Jesus as a historical character, from what I understand is there was a man born around the BCE/CE switch (in 3 CE I believe) with the name, parentage and locality of Jesus. I do readily admit, however, that at the time Jesus was as common a name then as John is now (at least from what I understand). Joseph and Mary begin common names then as well. Whether or not this man walked the Earth claiming to be the Son of God, is another story.
Anthony,
As a victim of the NYS Catholic school system of 13 years I have to say I am surprised. While much of the Catholic Faith is indeed based on the dictionary definition of faith, it is not all. In fact the RCC is happy to point out any historical facts that align Bible stories as true. If a newspaper article appeared speaking of how some local man changed water into wine at a wedding, but didn’t mention anyone by name, the RCC would be happy to bring that story out as proof of the divinity of Jesus.
Don’t mistake faith for a lack of proof. Some things are taken on faith because there is no way to prove them (yet). But if we can prove them it should strengthen your faith, not destroy it.
I’ve yet to hear any definitive proof of the existence of the mythical founder of Christianity. If you know of some I’d be happy to look at the source… Just remember that I am sceptical by nature.
Now, let’s get back to the cross-continent challenge…Two men enter…two men leave…cause there’s gonna be no fight.
It’s not my fault nobody will come to fight me here in China and a two-way plane ticket is more than two month’s pay so I haven’t the financial ability to go globetrotting to beat up trolls. But if anyone does come to me I will fight with them.
I’ve done that trick. Hitting someone hard enough to knock them backwards witout moving too much. It’s a combination of two things. One is where you land the punch get it in just the right place and you can disrupt their balance. The other is how you use your weight. Movement doesn’t have to be gross to generate good old-fashioned force. Nothing magical Qi about it.
