2 fighters of roughly same skill go at it…big guy weighs about 30 pounds more than little guy…how is little guy able to gain advantage to overtake big guy? whats in his favor and what can he do make the most of that…what do u guys think?
i personally wish theyre werent so many weight classes when it comes to competitions either…light, middle and heavyweight seem good enough, and it would certainly make things alot more interesting..just my opinion anyway
being heavier is not necessarily an advantage. A person needs to know how to use their weight, whatever it may be. In Judo I have the hardest time trying to randori with the little guys because they are short and it’s hard to get underneath their center of gravity. Use your attributes, whatever they are. If you’re smaler, you might be quicker, you may have longer reach, whatever.
Then theres the two other things: technique and luck.
[QUOTE=Aeturnal;739698]2 fighters of roughly same skill go at it…big guy weighs about 30 pounds more than little guy…how is little guy able to gain advantage to overtake big guy? whats in his favor and what can he do make the most of that…what do u guys think?
i personally wish theyre werent so many weight classes when it comes to competitions either…light, middle and heavyweight seem good enough, and it would certainly make things alot more interesting..just my opinion anyway[/QUOTE]
Unless it’s 30lbs of fat, the big guy whips the little guy’s ass.
If you’re smaller, you need to be better. “Better” can be better conditioned, faster, more skilled, armed, luckier, or more ruthless, but if you’re evenly matched except for size, the little guy’s screwed. That’s why they have all those weight classes.
im a little dude and that sounds about right.
evenly matched under the same system of techniques and methods? big guy would likely win, unless luck favors the smaller man.
differnt styles. it depends on many factors.
speed of sight and reflexes (among others)play a major roll against to evenly matched fighters.
its never so cut and dry as one guys is guaranteed to win.
there is an old chinese saying
“when two tigers meet, one will die and the other will be maimed.”
if its fists…its really touch and go, generally smaller guys tend to be a hair faster.
if the small guy can get a ko off b4 the big guy…muscles dont protect your brain.
its never so easy as #1 will surely win…in an evenly matched fight.
experience will teach you this.
[QUOTE=Aeturnal;739698]2 fighters of roughly same skill go at it…big guy weighs about 30 pounds more than little guy…how is little guy able to gain advantage to overtake big guy? whats in his favor and what can he do make the most of that…what do u guys think?
i personally wish theyre werent so many weight classes when it comes to competitions either…light, middle and heavyweight seem good enough, and it would certainly make things alot more interesting..just my opinion anyway[/QUOTE]
Depends on the training experience of both. I’m not a guy, but I’ll very much at a disadvantage sparring bigger people. With the exception of bigger people who have never sparred someone small who is also proficient.
But I must also say, the smaller person had best be willing to take a few hits to close in, or be ungodly fast with the blocks. You can usually tell how much sparring I’ve been doing by how many feint bruises I have on my face and arms. Arnica works great, but it ain’t perfect. 
“Little beat big if little is smart, first with the head, then with the heart”
-The Power of One
You need to be smarter,quicker, gutsier,and more skilled.
all things being equal-the bigger guy has the advantage-which is why we develop lik, ging,and faht-and of course, dahm-“yat dahm, yee lik, sahm gung-fu”.
i win all the time.
simple, eh?
Bigger guys usually get gassed quicker. So you can try to let the bigger guy tire himself out by conserving your energy and having good defense. Then when he is tired do your thing.
In my opinion when you say of having the same level of skills that makes life difficult for both.. specially when both are highly skilled.. low level of skills for both may give some advantage to both and specially to the higher weight by taking advantage of the other making some mistake first.. but at higher skill level there are slim chances of making mistakes..
Skill level also includes the skill to stay on for long.. so at same level of skills both should exhaust almost at the same rate..
But same level of skill does not mean same level of physical structure.. so whoever have a little more reach may get advantage.. also style may play an important role in winning..
So in general weight may not be a major factor at same level of skills..
However, the suggested 30 lbs may make a big difference sometimes.. if it is 130 against 160 then it is almost 25% over weight and both still may have equal mobility depending on physic and 160 may get some advantage.. but if it is 210 against 240 the weight advantage is only 15% and that may not be an advantage at all.. and sometimes overweight may cause trouble..
[QUOTE=Aeturnal;739698]2 fighters of roughly same skill go at it…big guy weighs about 30 pounds more than little guy…how is little guy able to gain advantage to overtake big guy? whats in his favor and what can he do make the most of that…what do u guys think?
i personally wish theyre werent so many weight classes when it comes to competitions either…light, middle and heavyweight seem good enough, and it would certainly make things alot more interesting..just my opinion anyway[/QUOTE]
Who has the reach advantage?
All things being equal size/weight is an advantage. A big one.
There is no such thing as “all things being equal” in reality though.
One thing you can do to neutralize a weight advantage is to keep the bigger guy from moving forward at you. Use angles and an aggresive style of defense.
Don’t back up, you’ll get run over.
Remember, the winner is the one who makes the next to last mistake.
just because they have the same skills doesnt mean they think the same. They will use the skill set diff.
[QUOTE=Aeturnal;739698]2 fighters of roughly same skill go at it…big guy weighs about 30 pounds more than little guy…how is little guy able to gain advantage to overtake big guy? whats in his favor and what can he do make the most of that…what do u guys think?
i personally wish theyre werent so many weight classes when it comes to competitions either…light, middle and heavyweight seem good enough, and it would certainly make things alot more interesting..just my opinion anyway[/QUOTE]
The “little guys” Ive played with seem to be comfortable getting close and using the upward angles. Also, not staying inside for too long… advance…retreat. Using the angles and staying inside CAN be effective in overcoming a longer reach
Obviosly its going to depend how you use what you have.
One thing I love about my school is the large range of body types available. I can’t say that we are equal levels (we are all different), but it is definitely great to be able to train with someone 5+ inches taller than me, and someone 5+ inches shorter.
Sorry this doesn’t really answer your question, because I don’t have the answer.
[QUOTE=Fuzzly;740093]One thing I love about my school is the large range of body types available. I can’t say that we are equal levels (we are all different), but it is definitely great to be able to train with someone 5+ inches taller than me, and someone 5+ inches shorter.
Sorry this doesn’t really answer your question, because I don’t have the answer.[/QUOTE]
It’s a good answer, because there is no “correct” answer. This is a point-of-veiw issue. A big person will usually say size is an issue. A shorter person is likely to say it isn’t size but skill.
whether you are big or small, size is always an issue.
[QUOTE=Becca;740132] A shorter person is likely to say it isn’t size but skill.:)[/QUOTE]
Only delusional short people. Or little guys trying to sell something.
[QUOTE=LeeCasebolt;740151]Only delusional short people. Or little guys trying to sell something.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it’s a point-of-view thing. My losses have all been a lack of skill rather than size. When I’m “on the ball” I can get inside and mangle a person who has a reach advatige. When I’m not, I eat punches trying to close. Being short limits what I can use, but it also limits what the taller person can use. It’s a game of who has the better skill set for their oponant and who has the experience to switch it up when what they are using isn’t working. Those are not size related issues, they are universal. I’m not saying size plays no part- it does. But to say the shorter/lighter person is at a disadvatage simply for being smaller is somewhat near-sighted.
Not selling anything, just stating my opinion.
like I said before, the closer you are in skill, the more size matters. It’s not point of view, but matter of skill level.
There are many factors that make up a fighter. Different body types offer different advantages. There are techniques that work well for a shorter fighter vs. a taller one and others that work well for a taller fighter vs. a shorter one. Long limbs offer an advantage in reach but can be exploited in grappling. A bigger person, whether he is short, tall, or medium, generally has more natural strength then a smaller person. However, this isn’t always the case and the smaller person is in better shape if he makes proper use of the power he has. Smaller people are often quicker. However, this also isn’t always the case. A shorter person also has a lower center of gravity. This is a positive attribute that a lot of people don’t understand. These are just some things that come with different body types. This doesnt mean youre doomed to suck because of whatever shortcomings you start out with. You can get stronger, faster, and build more stamina. If you dont have much reach, you can get great at short range fighting. Also, you can learn long range techniques. If your center of gravity is high, you can train balance and coordination. If your stamina is lacking, you can improve that too. I feel that thinking you are limited because of your body type is a defeatist attitude. You can always improve your strengths and melt out weaknesses through the forges of training.