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hey guys anyone have any info on these guys?

http://www.youtube.com/user/LABukXingGwoon

just saw them on youtube and im from LA, wanna know where they train.

[QUOTE=LadySnow;1034237]hey guys anyone have any info on these guys?

http://www.youtube.com/user/LABukXingGwoon

just saw them on youtube and im from LA, wanna know where they train.[/QUOTE]

They provide a link on that page to contact them.

i couldnt find Los Angeles Buk Xing Gwoon with a google search… interesting… ne website link, nada… just a contact user button… guess its ur only option… :rolleyes::slight_smile:

I was hoping someone had a website for their school that i could look at aswell. I guess I’ll contact them on youtube profile.

thanks guys!!!

by the way does anybody have any info on this guy or this guy’s master Tarm Sing?

[QUOTE=LadySnow;1034471]I was hoping someone had a website for their school that i could look at aswell. I guess I’ll contact them on youtube profile.

thanks guys!!!

by the way does anybody have any info on this guy or this guy’s master Tarm Sing?[/QUOTE]

Tarm Sing?

Tam Sam is credited with being the founder of the buk sing style of choy li fut in and around the 1920’s.

Maybe that’s who he’s thinking of? I didin’t look at any of the clips really, jsut a cursory glance.

there are Buk Sing Kwoons in Los Angeles though I would think.

And does it have to be Buk Sing? There are several kung fu styles available in ubiquity as well.

it’s right there in the video. The chart at the end of the vid illustrates Tarm Sing was Tarm Fei Peng’s desciple and godson of Lun Chee, (I could be wrong because I am not a CLF student, but I think the Lacey Sifu brothers are of Sifu Lun Chee’s line through Sifu Kong Hing). The sifu of this group, Sifu Raymond Chan is shown to be the desciple of his Sifu, Tarm Sing. Looks pretty straight forward to me and aesthetically(sp?) in line with other Buck Sing vids I’ve seen.

Sifu Ray Chan is a disciple of Tam Sing coming from Tam Fei Pang’s line( Tam Sam’s son), he also learned from Lun Chee. Tam Sing is famous for being a full-contact fighter that competed in the South-East Asian Full Contact tournament in the 1970s

The Lacey brothers come from Kong On and Lai Chou’s line through their Sifu’s Kong Hing and Lai Hung, seperate from Lun Chee’s line.

The Tam Fei Pang line is unique in its use of a modified running horse, and low kicks seen in the video, so a little different than other stuff that may have been seen.

[QUOTE=deeperthantao;1034764]Sifu Ray Chan is a disciple of Tam Sing coming from Tam Fei Pang’s line( Tam Sam’s son), he also learned from Lun Chee. Tam Sing is famous for being a full-contact fighter that competed in the South-East Asian Full Contact tournament in the 1970s

The Lacey brothers come from Kong On and Lai Chou’s line through their Sifu’s Kong Hing and Lai Hung, seperate from Lun Chee’s line.

The Tam Fei Pang line is unique in its use of a modified running horse, and low kicks seen in the video, so a little different than other stuff that may have been seen.[/QUOTE]

Are there any other Sifus from Tam Fei Pang’s line around apart from Sifu Ray Chan?

[QUOTE=LadySnow;1035005]Are there any other Sifus from Tam Fei Pang’s line around apart from Sifu Ray Chan?[/QUOTE]

Is Satori Science still hanging out here? He would be my first go-to guy for bak sing info. Vancouver, B.C. had some good bak sing action going but all the sifus I knew of are long retired.

I’m in the Tam Fei Pang line through Stan Mak but I’m no expert on the system since more of my clf training came from a student of Tse Wing Bun and Ho Ngau.

Rose Chan may have some students who teach.

jd

Hi there,

Apart from Ray Chan,

There is Henry Suen in Saskatchewan, Canada who is still actively teaching. His student Robert James(Satori Science) is in Vancouver, teaching privately.

Rose Chan and Raymond Leung, both students of Tam Fei Pang, are in Vancouver also, but, they are long retired. Too my knowledge neither has students who are teaching in Vancouver, but, Chan Sifu, last time I checked has students teaching in Hong Kong and China.

In Winnipeg, a student of Henry Suen’s classmate Barry Richardson(sp?) is teaching privately. In Seattle, I believe, there is another student of Tam Fei Pang, although I think he is retired. Also in Las Vegas, I believe there is another student of Tam Fei Pang, Bosco Young, or at least some of his students.

I am not sure if other students of Tam Fei Pang are teaching in hong kong, but, those are all that I know of.

[QUOTE=deeperthantao;1035050]Hi there,

Apart from Ray Chan,

There is Henry Suen in Saskatchewan, Canada who is still actively teaching. His student Robert James(Satori Science) is in Vancouver, teaching privately.

Rose Chan and Raymond Leung, both students of Tam Fei Pang, are in Vancouver also, but, they are long retired. Too my knowledge neither has students who are teaching in Vancouver, but, Chan Sifu, last time I checked has students teaching in Hong Kong and China.

In Winnipeg, a student of Henry Suen’s classmate Barry Richardson(sp?) is teaching privately. In Seattle, I believe, there is another student of Tam Fei Pang, although I think he is retired. Also in Las Vegas, I believe there is another student of Tam Fei Pang, Bosco Young, or at least some of his students.

I am not sure if other students of Tam Fei Pang are teaching in hong kong, but, those are all that I know of.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the info.

Nice reach with the Cheung Ahn Cheui!

EO

[QUOTE=Eric Olson;1035581]Nice reach with the Cheung Ahn Cheui!

EO[/QUOTE]

Eric, are you still studying CLF? If not what are you doing now?

-V

Hey guys, i’ve asked a few chinese friends of mine to translate what this video is talking about, but because its in cantonese, and they don’t do Gung Fu, they had trouble translating the terms.

is there anything interesting on this video?

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/7MoINhbvsE4/

Rough translation

Saying founder of Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut, Tarm Sarm originally learnt Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut.

After learning/practising HSCLF for a few years, he tested modified, refined what he learnt and changed the original HSCLF (Long Bridge, Big Horse) to (Long Bridge, Narrow Horse).
For Example: (Sei Ping Ma) was 2 and half feet, he changed it to 1 foot 8 inches[i suspect he is talking about old chinese ‘feet’ and ‘inches’ which is not used anymore today. chinese measurement were larger than the regular foot/inch we use today.]
The (Tiu Ma) use to be (T) style and changed it to (side stance). The (Tsarp Tsui) changed from leaning in, to upright body posture. HS emphasized power from the shoulder, he emphasized power from the hip.
The above were the visually obvious differences.

And then the video goes on to talk about the history of Choy Lee Fut, which we all have heard of the different versions. Then onto how Buk Sing got its name.

In my lineage of Bak Sing, we initially teach what we refer to as the traditional stance (Sai Ping Ma) which is wide and low although not extremely low as seen elsewhere. Once a student attains proficiency (intermediate level) in the traditional stance the premise of the stance is changed and the reasons behind it explained. It is vital that one spends much time and practise in the traditionally lower/wider stance first. The advanced stance is, in form, narrower.

Ding Ji Ma or the ‘bow & arrow’ stance is the most radically changed stance at the advanced or senior level: by form, function, and concept.

Our Tsap choi is never to be leaned into. The reasoning is paramount to the proper usage of our stances at the advanced level. When a student progresses from what we call the traditional to the advanced stances, they are almost starting over. Much practise is required for proper power and mobility; this is, in part, one reason as to why we do not lean into the tsap choi. With that said, an upright spine is very common throughout many gung fu styles.

We are constantly loosening the hip structure and working on generating power from the ground up~

nospam

is it true the buk sing guys used to go compete against muay thai alot??? somebody told me they got a rep for being pretty hard by being one of the only styles that consistantly won against muay thai cats…

true or false???

True

nospam

[QUOTE=Syn7;1036878]is it true the buk sing guys used to go compete against muay thai alot??? somebody told me they got a rep for being pretty hard by being one of the only styles that consistantly won against muay thai cats…

true or false???[/QUOTE]

Buk Sing are pretty hard core in general…

[QUOTE=Syn7;1036878]is it true the buk sing guys used to go compete against muay thai alot??? somebody told me they got a rep for being pretty hard by being one of the only styles that consistantly won against muay thai cats…

true or false???[/QUOTE]

Why can’t you train in both?

The deception, accuracy and penetration of Buk Sing attacks and the brute force, smashing techniques of Thai Boxing make up a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful combination…

Brings tears to my eyes. :cool: