Apoweyn,
You got that last post in right before me!
Have you or your teacher ever had a chance to train or meet with any of the Sayoc kali guys on the east coast?
blackjack,
yeah, but you added some valuable stuff. i knew you would.
i’ve met them socially a couple of times, though it was years ago now. chris sayoc, i remember particularly. it’s a little unsettling how quick that dude is for a man his size. for a man anyone’s size, actually.
i’ve never trained with them though. they’re in… new jersey or new york, yeah?
stuart b.
I think in New York, I have a friend that went to one of his seminars and I have heard a lot of good things about them.
If I am ever over there I would love to get my hands on one of Sayoc Kali seminars, another group I have heard some good things about is AMOK!, the tribal art of the blade.
Peace
yeah, i’ve heard that too. my first school didn’t emphasize the knife as much as it could’ve. more stickwork.
what about you? what’s your background like?
stuart b.
Thanks for the info guys! I may have to check it out sometime in the future!
no worries red5angel.
stuart b.
From the FMA side lets just say I’eve been through hybrid flavour country:D
Most of it being JKD/Inosanto blend, but there has been some other stuff, Vee-Arnis, Modern Arnis, and some of the Willow/Largo Mano system.
Though as you stated a solid portion of that is more stick focused than blade focused, intell I made a direct focus on the blade methodology/science, the knife is a kinda passion of mine, so that is where I look.
From a blade perspective there are two schools of thought, one is the “Duelling School” the other is for lack of a better term the “Assasination School”.
Since the Philippines are a different blade culture you will find some of their blade training to be duelling based, almost like knifeboxing, though not all by ANY means, as a lot of it has to do with who is teaching, their background and of course what system, the problem with a duelling based mindset can IMHO be a serious one when brought into the modern western blade culture, a culture which is based on a different way of dealing with the blade.
A blade culture of using deceptions, shankings, slight of hand, ambushes, ballistic attacks and so forth. That is what the assasination based school of thought is about.
For the blade a prefer the last, because on a percentage scale that is how things are going to go down, it is very rare that both you and your attacker are going to both have drawn blades and be squared off, though of course it does and can happen, more often though it is based on either you or your attacker having a drawn blade, and more than not if the bad guy has it and he is worth his salt, you are not going to see it anyway intell he is right up on you, if at all.
So in that context my current blade methods are very western with a FMA base, not fancy at all, very simple, very ballistic, the stuff you see with Fairbairn/Applegate. From a duelling prespective it will become more FMA with a few tweaks from the Styers material which is based on the old western fencing methods.
I am ALWAYS looking for different things, perspectives, I am looking to add some Spanish Navaja/Knifefighting and Sicilian stuff into there soon, try it out in duelling & situational practice, some other real good stuff is the material by Hock/Keating.
Oh, and don’t get me started on my newer Tomahawk fetish 
Do you carry??? If so how many??
blackjack,
excellent. the ‘knifeboxing’ description of duelling is brilliant. and its contrast to assassination. very nice.
i used to carry a knife. spyderco folder. nothing terribly fancy. that was when i was working in downtown baltimore. going back to my car late at night. i stopped carrying one 1) because i wasn’t working in a city anymore (not a brilliant reason to stop, in and of itself) and 2) i honestly don’t know that i’ve got it in me to use a knife on someone. and once you’ve introduced the knife to the scenario, that’s not the time to be soul searching.
i concentrate more on empty hand, these days. eskrima provides some really nice options for that, as you well know. i also like the idea of being able to control the level of damage done with an impact weapon.
that said, i hold with the theory that the best way to know what to expect from a weapon is to know what to do with it. so i’m all for training with the knife regardless. my reluctance to carry one on me is strictly a reflection of my own… capacities?
james keating certainly looks to know what he’s doing. i haven’t seen much about him lately. i do remember him pretty clearly from that brief period when the magazine ‘full contact’ was being published. (worked in a newsstand at the time)
stuart b.
p.s. tomahawks: thumbs up
If you don’t feel comfortable with a knife yet as a self defense tool you still might want to carry one just as a tool, i.e. if your seatbelt got jammed in a car accident and you had to cut yourself out or a loved one, even something like a Swiss Army knife of Buck 110.
Another thing you might want to take a peek at for a daily carry if a knife makes you feel a bit at unease is a koppo stick.
I carry a steel koppo and a folder, it gives real good options on both counts, the koppo is better than a kubotan or a yawara as it has a loop where your fingers go into and it will provide you with better weapon retention and some other tricks the kubotan can not do.
Just thoughts as I am a weapon freak.
Just out of curiosity…does anyone here still carry brass knuckles, ahem, I mean “paperweights”?
Does a roll of quaters count:D
On a serious note I think more people should check into fist loads like the koppo and kubotan. You can take them anywhere, or at least almost, they are easy to carry, hide and can pack a freighting blow to the vitals or **** near anywhere else for that matter, not to mention they can assist in the use of non-lethal force, pressure points, locks, takedowns.
blackjack,
actually, yes. i still carry the folder in my everpresent backpack/briefcase (whichever i’m using at the time). like you said, they’re useful tools to have around. besides, if the chips are far enough down, i may well change my mind about my capabilities. know what i mean?
i’ve thought about getting an ASP baton before now. but that’s all i’ve done so far.
stuart b.
Originally posted by Black Jack
[B]Does a roll of quaters count:D
On a serious note I think more people should check into fist loads like the koppo and kubotan. You can take them anywhere, or at least almost, they are easy to carry, hide and can pack a freighting blow to the vitals or **** near anywhere else for that matter, not to mention they can assist in the use of non-lethal force, pressure points, locks, takedowns. [/B]
Yeah, I guess quarters can count, but if you’re going to use rolled money, I’d recommend a roll of pennies. If you have to bust it and get rid of evidence it’s $.50 vs. $10.00, you know?
What exactly does a koppo look like? I’ve seen kubotans before, they’re all over the place, but I haven’t seen a koppo that I know of. Got a link?
Sam,
Here is where I got mine.
www.bladerigger.com/koppo.html
If that does not float your boat here is a line of there other titanium sitcks.