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vincent pepper knows bfp and learned under doo wai
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GM Doo told you this? When? Where?
Don’t believe everything you’re told…
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alot of it is from doo wai
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Like what?
It’s true that Lacy isn’t well liked in BFP, for obvious reasons. Interesting to note that, a couple of months ago I stumbled across a web page by one of Lacy’s “lohons” (now possibly an ex-lohon after Lacy admitted the fraud to him) who was selling a video tape of a certain Australian YKM Shifu in action. Anyway, I heard that when this Shifu found out about this, he became quite upset and demanded this to stop. So…it looks like WE aren’t the only ones who don’t like the guy and don’t want to be associated with him.
billy
it was me, that was on the video! and of course i was pissed because i was never apart of his so called reps.
i bought some bak mei info of doo wai and he asked me to do a form for him so i did. jim lacy has never done anything to me wrong personally, but that was wrong and he apologised and took my photo and imige off his video.
you yourself is a ex lacy as well as many here! which has done videos on white tiger wing chun for lacy and god knows what else.
well he isnt ykm so i have no beef with lacy at all. bfp politics which i dont give a rats ass about! i feel sorry for doo wai anyways, but they had a fall out.
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u want me to CALL doo wai?!?! ill get the danm number and call him if itll make u shut up all i have to ddo is ask richard and hell give it to me. you guys are so squepticle it makes me sick!
Qui semme le vent, recolte la tempete!
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it was me, that was on the video!
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Um…yeah…I know.
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you yourself is a ex lacy as well as many here!
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I think you’ve got me confused with someone else.
Lots of people were taken in by Jim, and, yes, my first exposure in a limited sense, to BFP was reading one of the guy’s articles. But everyone jumps ship eventually, only the delusional are still left.
Rei,
Yes, you are right I am squepticle! I just want you to do you’re homework (literally). Don’t take everything at face value, just because someone can punch and kick hard, doesn’t mean that you should hang on their every word and buy all of the BS that they sell. Let me know how that phone call goes.
fuuuuuuuckkkkkk
you are DENCE! i dont care bout lacy never talked to him dont have anythnig to DO with him cept through shergold whom i dont even study under anymore. who cares about him u wanna waste ur time talking bout how much he sucks blah blah hes full of **** blah blah well guess what while UR pissing ur pants thinking of ways to insult him HES studying and doing his training guess hwos winning in the end? maybe ur just jealous cause u could join the bandwagon. that or u jsut cant figure out how to makemoney like him so u bad mouth him like a monkey throws **** when hes mad. im not sticking up for him in anyways im sayign UR danm ignorant to waste ur breath on him if u think hes so fake then go about ur danm bizness! its like all the other people that get pissed at this ROLLS idiot on th eboard for crying out load get a danm life…
Qui semme le vent, recolte la tempete!
Rei
Steriods are bad for you man.
yeah, ok!
WHAT EVER… :rolleyes:
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Anyhow how about that JIK BO?! 
Jik Bo
I wanted to say that I train the form with both tension and non tension performances. I also do Sam Bo Jin the same way. I work sometimes on trying to create a slicing ging in some of the movements, especially when the arms cross and uncross, in the scissor arm movements.
IronM: I work sometimes on trying to create a slicing ging in some of the movements, especially when the arms cross and uncross, in the scissor arm movements.
Could you explain this? I’m a tad confused.
Mark S
slicing or sawing
This is something I have come up with. I try and train the way the arms move out like slicing through something. I train slow and visualize slicing through my opponents attack with the scissor hands/arms. After I got used to it(more than a year) I train it faster, but with same intent to slice through anything thrown at me
I say ging as that is the word taught to me to represent power from whole body coordination.
Dale
steroids?
woa lost u with that one… u sayin IM on steroids?? if thats the case sorry but no my built is mine… sides if i WAS on steroids id HAVE a built so ya shut up and stop making obviously stupid assumptions trying to be funny man… everyone thinks hes a comedian
Qui semme le vent, recolte la tempete!
First I’d like to offer an apology to the forum (especially you Biu Ji) for muddying this thread w/the Jim Lacy nonsense. Many of you do not have a psychopath like this guy doing his best to harm your Pai and your Grandmaster, and for that, be thankful, and thanks for cutting me a lil’ slack now and then if I seem to be obsessed.
FT,
I know that if you had a guy do to your Shifu what Lacy has done to GM Doo, you would be every bit as angry as I am. So I know you understand…
Rei,
I thought we were talking about Peppers, not Lacy. You say that he learned BFP from GM Doo, and I asked you when GM Doo told you this…end of story. If someone says to you, “I was a former closed door disciple for 12 years!”, don’t just say, “Really!” say, “Really?” and put their words to the test.
As for the form…
I love these Jik Bo/Chung Bo forms…so many people dismiss them as “basics”. I think this comes about because of the fact that they are taught early on in the training. My own feeling is that many times, what is taught early is done so not because it is basic, and therefore, not so important later on, they are taught early because they are the most important things one learns. How many stories to you read about great masters of antiquity, and the one common thread regardless of style is the persistance and dilligence with which these masters worked on their “basics”.
Billy- thats cool , no stress, thanks anyway . I ve given the forum a rest for a while because things can flare up over silly words people say but hope I can be more relaxed with it this time.
Ironmonk- are you refering to something like sip kiul?(my spe lling is wrong probably). Even with a straight punch you can still slice across an arm , using your bridge on the way in to deflect or “slice”. This isnt sip kiul but works in similar way.
There is 2 types of slicing in “sek sze kuen” 1 slicing in , palms up and 1 slicing out palms down.
Billy- do you do Jik Bo as a slow meditative type form as well as with power? I train it mostly with tension to develop the shoulder/back for straight punching. 
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i dont like pepper to me he didnt seem like anything really. when he came and taugh us i wasnt too impressed and when he learned my age (im 17 but look like 21) he said htat if he woulda known he wouldnt have let me in. that kinda ticked me off… pl hes fat and out of shape seriously to hell with all lineage crap its always fighting situations… everyone has there own lil story to make it gullible and interesting to the public… i do the art and practice it i dont care who was a 18th GM before me and my whole family got to canada there DEAD
Peace!
Qui semme le vent, recolte la tempete!
Slicing motions
Biu Ji,
Yes, it is what I was trying to get on paper but I didnt have enough caffiene the other day when I was posting.
I also do this form with the brass rings on and try and ging my punches and develop some nasty short power.
I also try and do this form slow and think about projecting my energy out into my frame.
I try and hold a posture and work it into my muscle memory.
Talk to you,
Rei
"steroids?
woa lost u with that one… u sayin IM on steroids?? if thats the case sorry but no my built is mine… sides if i WAS on steroids id HAVE a built so ya shut up and stop making obviously stupid assumptions trying to be funny man… everyone thinks hes a comedian"
OK,you figure it out,
"fuuuuuuuckkkkkk
you are DENCE! i dont care bout lacy never talked to him dont have anythnig to DO with him cept through shergold whom i dont even study under anymore. who cares about him u wanna waste ur time talking bout how much he sucks blah blah hes full of **** blah blah well guess what while UR pissing ur pants thinking of ways to insult him HES studying and doing his training guess hwos winning in the end? maybe ur just jealous cause u could join the bandwagon. that or u jsut cant figure out how to makemoney like him so u bad mouth him like a monkey throws **** when hes mad. im not sticking up for him in anyways im sayign UR danm ignorant to waste ur breath on him if u think hes so fake then go about ur danm bizness! its like all the other people that get pissed at this ROLLS idiot on th eboard for crying out load get a danm life…"
I made the comment because you seemed a little hotheaded,chill out,if I want to joke its because thats my nature,maybe I mistook your passion for anger.
A litte too much uppercase for me. 
Jek-bo?,ah…I love that form,it could be called the SNT of Bai Mei,its taught as the first internal set after at least four years of external
training.Some schools teach this as their first set.
As of now I have learned four versions of Jek-bo,
two from Dr.Wong,one from Chang-beng-fatt and the other from Chen-Seuy-Dor.
All four have the same concepts(Sink,Swallow,Spit,Float) some of the hand movements differ,the footwork is the same except for one of the turn arounds.
Alot such as SLT in WT/WC/VT is hidden in Jek-bo.
FT made a comment about going 300meters before the turn around.
We had a long strech in Sifu’s yard we called jek-bo ally,he had to landscape it because of the ground that was worn from the drag stepping. 
tnwingtsun
your exactly right, when i used to train with my sifu at the park, the ground was torn to shite. we have 2 different versions on the footwork as well as different hand techniques!
i miss those days:)
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