I have watched many UFC competition videos and from what I have seen, I give mad props to anyone with the nads to even step into such a venue. Now to actually win ONE says a lot about an individual let alone 32 victories. As for his claim to study 5 Animal Kung Fu, well,…I’ll just say that it is obviously a different style than the one we are all familiar with. I have never even heard the mantis being referred to as an animal in the CMA’s. Not discrediting him at all because I simply do not know of the system he studies. I think that is where the lineage thing comes in to play. No, it is not a measure of his fighting skill. (although his 32 victories certainly are) But, it would give us some insight about his style and where it is derived from. Alright, I gotta’ get back to work. You guys are going to get me fired! LOL (o:
sheesh, what about the SEGAL claim?! any proof?
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MerryP, Legend, etc - I don’t understand your criticisms here.
Jason Delucia is receiving flak for not being a “real” 5-animal practicioner, in much the same way that Shooter sometimes gets flak for not teaching “real,” tai chi.
That’s all I was saying.
Shouldn’t misleading or fraudulent information be pointed out?
I didn’t see anyone make any comments putting down his fighting skill.
I’ll check my old Freddie V shirt but the animals sound like Shoalin Kempo Karate.
I thought he was from Revere Mass. He could be from a villari break off. God knows there are a million of them out there.
Braden
Yes–but personally I’m not qualified to make that judgment.
Other people obviously are. I just found it kind of interesting.
I realize where this is headed, of course–it doesn’t matter if some guy does Minnesota jiujitsu and cleans up at BJJ tournaments. It’s not BJJ.
Same thing here–his fight record speaks for itself, but he may or may not be a 5-animal stylist.
I guess what I’m trying to say is instead of bashing him, why not find out what he does/says before passing the judgment of “it’s not 5-Animal Kung Fu.”
Who knows… maybe it is. Or maybe its BASE is 5 animal or whatever.
I don’t think anyone’s bashing him. Five animal kungfu is a specific thing and he doesn’t happen to be doing it. I know everyone gets burned by ‘yeah but the guy in the UFC isn’t real kungfu’ and that situation sucks, but the facts are the facts. Not much else to say about it.
That’s possible, of course.
But there doesn’t seem to be a lot of data collection going on prior to the analysis. That’s all I’m getting at.
According to his webpage, his art follows the structure of a relatively popular north american art inspired by the shaolin myth, and not that of the chinese five animal kungfu. I’m not sure how else to explain that.
I think that does it quite nicely 
Works for me.
Braden…yeah but I’ve seen this crap within the wing chun community…peeps look at pics and laugh and say hey…his technique doesn’t look like the PERFECT BONG SAO etc…hell he might have added his own intrepretation to 5 animal. Why not email him and find out if the webmaster made a mistake…plus he’s been training SHOOTFIGHTING for several years so maybe he left the 5 animal teaching and calls his skool a dojo.
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Dont bother emailing him i already have i havent gotten a response yet.
Funny.
Ragging on Delucia because of his “lineage” or stances is outrageous.The guy fights.Period.Gets in the ring, claims to train Kung Fu and bangs.I give the guy all the respect in the world.It’s truly comical to here the Kung Fu community’s response when a CMA enters a NHB touney and loses.“He’s not doing mantis , that’s kenpo”, “He is a fraud”.Whatever.Everyone should embrace the fact that he enters and train KUng Fu.
He is probably only one of two CMA’s that have continued to fight after losing miserably during their first fights.I could only imagine if he was undefeated.He surely would be the savior of Kung Fu.
Give the guy some credit.
Well put Choke.
Reciting one’s martial lineage has never won a fight.
Originally posted by chokeyouout
Ragging on Delucia because of his “lineage” or stances is outrageous.The guy fights.Period.Gets in the ring, claims to train Kung Fu and bangs.I give the guy all the respect in the world.It’s truly comical to here the Kung Fu community’s response when a CMA enters a NHB touney and loses.“He’s not doing mantis , that’s kenpo”, “He is a fraud”.Whatever.Everyone should embrace the fact that he enters and train KUng Fu.
Jason delucia is 32-19 he obviously is a good fighter this isnt about CMA people not claiming one of their own after he loses. I dont claim someone like steve faulkner doesnt know and wing chun and he is 0-1 i know he does. I also dont claim someone like joel sutton who is 2-4 doesnt do mantis he also obviously does.
You may not realize this but Shaolin 5 animals is a specific style it has a specific 5 animals those animals are tiger, dragon, crane, snake , and LEOPARD. On Jason delucia’s site he says the animals are tiger, dragon, crane, snake, and MANTIS. Who knows maybe jason takes some style of 5 animals that is totally different than everyone elses. Maybe he takes 5 animals and also mantis and he forgot to tell the webmaster to put up leopard i dont know but what i do know is what he does doesnt seem to be 5 animals.
Something to consider though in the heat of a fight his “crane punch” might not have the absolute perfect form that it does when you train with it. Even being able to pull off the moves in a full contact fight is pretty good.
Again I have not seen many of his fights so I have no idea how good he is.
Is he the one that fought Royce in the first released UFC? It showed him doing a spining heel kick on a reflex bag?
Correct me if I’m wrong
But don’t 5 animal guys learn one animal at a time? Maybe he learned the first 4 only and then Mantis later. Since he didn’t know the 5th animal, he subbed his Mantis for it??
If THAT is the case, he’s still a legit Kung Fu guy, just not fully trained in the 5 Animal system.
Thanks Royal–that’s kind of my point.
All the facts aren’t in. Figure that out FIRST, then pass judgement.