Pardon my ignorance, but location hampers me from getting the information I seek firsthand.
I recently received an invitation via email, from an American based organization called International Gungfu Lei Tai Federation, to participate in a tournament called “Jade Dragon”. It’s to be held in Washington, D.C. in July. The sanctioning body is called United Kungfu Federation of North America.
The way it’s written up, the events look challenging and diverse. Some local CMA people think it might be a good experience to visit and compete there if the tournament is well-run and has good participants. However, when they visited the website, it was all about the tournament, with little detailed information on the IGLTF itself.
With that, I would like to ask whether anyone here has competed in tournaments run by the abovementioned organizations. If yes, what is your opinion and/or experiences on the way these events were conducted? Would you recommend that other CMA practitioners enter these?
While we’re at it, might anyone know any good CMA tournaments that will be held this year in the U.S.A or Canada?
this looks like their FIRST EVENT EVER, so they might be biting off more than they can chew trying to have a huge event
also, I know for a fact that ALL contact sports are governed by athletic commission in Wash DC, including martial arts evetns, but the comissioner HATES THEM
King of San Da USA presents
2004 World San Da Championships
2004 San Da Super Fights
38 Nations, Over 50 teams
September 4, 2004
RexPlex Sports Complex
Elizabeth, NJ, USA
“OPEN AMATEUR COMPETITION”
This event is open to ALL amateur athletes who are 18 years of age or older. Professional athletes are restricted and may not enter. There is no prize money offered.
Registration Fees:
$40 - Early Registration - must be postmarked by July 30, 2004.
$50 - Pre-Registration - must be postmarked by August 20, 2004
$60 - Late Registration
Divisions
Men’s A Class: Open to all AMATEURS, all competitors will receive ranking after event
Men’s B Class: BEGINNERS, 5 or less ring fights
Women: Women’s competition is OPEN to all AMATEURS
Summary of Rules
We will be using King of San Da:USA rules at this event. Punching, kicking, knee strikes, throws and takedowns are all legal. Complete King of San Da:USA rules can be found at; www.angelfire.com/sd2/kingofsanda/ksdrules.html.
Required protective equipment:
Shorts are MANDATORY in ALL matches. No long pants.
All athletes in all competitions must provide and wear a groin protector and fitted mouth piece/gum shield. Groin protector must be worn under the shorts. Chest protector for females.
Wearing of approved leather headgear is MANDATORY.
We will supply 12 ounce boxing gloves.
Shin and instep protection is MANDATORY in amateur competition. The padding must cover the shin and the top of the foot.
Chest guard will NOT be used in this event.
Legal techniques:
Legal punching techniques include all boxing techniques and spinning back fist strikes. A spinning backhand must strike with the glove portion of the hand.
Legal kicking techniques include any kick to any legal target including the head, torso, outside of the thighs, inside of the thighs, and calves. Either kicks or sweeping motions with the arch of the foot are legal to both the front and supporting legs. In San Da matches, knees are legal to any area below the collar bone.
Clinching is allowed to seek advantage. However, the clinch is limited to five (5) seconds. Kicking the legs in the clinch and/or punching out of the clinch is legal. After five seconds, the referee will break the clinch and restart the fighters. Throws and takedowns completed after the 5 second period will not be considered by judges.
Competitors are allowed to use throw or takedown.
Competitors are allowed to catch kicks. Once caught, the fighter has 5 seconds to sweep, throw or takedown their opponent. Competitors may drive (plow) their opponent during this five second period. The drive can not be used to throw the opponent out of the ring.
I’ve said this a lot before, there is NOTHING in TCMA as far as skill set wise, that is not found in a modern San Da curriculum, the difference is HOW we TRAIN…
As my program grows and matures, I have now set aside time for weapon work and weapon defenses, but against things like sticks, knives and chains and not spears and broadswords…
I’ve said this a lot before, there is NOTHING in TCMA as far as skill set wise, that is not found in a modern San Da curriculum, the difference is HOW we TRAIN…
Originally posted by lkfmdc
[B]who ever said we wear boxing gloves all the time?
people ASSUME they know what San Da is about, but often don’t really know the inside story [/B]
I don’t know the inside story, granted.
But from your post I gather you still find value in some skill sets that aren’t necessarily practical in a San Da tournament with protective equipment, correct?
darn, we’re gonna hijack this poor thread aren’t we kids?
I maintain that ALL my skills are supported by a framework of basic skills which are all developed by what some call “sport”
I personally prefer to call them “alive training”
Face it, we aren’t going to spar full out with live blades, we drill techniques, but when it comes down to it, the wrestling, kicking and hitting I developed in 'sport" are going to be the basis for what I can successfully pull off
Face it, we aren’t going to spar full out with live blades, we drill techniques, but when it comes down to it, the wrestling, kicking and hitting I developed in 'sport" are going to be the basis for what I can successfully pull off
obviously, you are just a novice. go stand in horse for the next 2 hours until you are enlightened.
obviously, you are just a novice. go stand in horse for the next 2 hours until you are enlightened. [/B]
Nice one, Ral…MP.
At any rate, I wasn’t aware San Da people trained for non-ring events. I figured their training was specific to that environment. Not saying the skills don’t translate from one to the other, but you have mentioned teaching Chin Na before, and since a great deal of Chin Na would be difficult to pull-off with boxing gloves on, I was curious to as to your previous post.
