Gangsterfist sez:
Look at Augustine Fong, his stance ever so slightly back weighted.
He is from YM lineage as well as I am. My triangle footwork is always 50/50, so we are trained to never back, or forward weigh yourself.
A polite comment. I dont know how you draw your “inference”.
Re.Augustine Fong.
In the ygkym or ck? Simply not so. He is not only 50-50- but
he is relaxed, focused, balanced and yet structurally “solid” and alive in his ygkym rooting.
There are tangible indicators of the details of stancing.
Inferences from pictures can be deceptive.
I have never trained with augustine fong, but I do own an 8 DVD set of him doing forms drills, wooden dummy, etc. He looks back weighted slightly on this dvd set. So its a total of like 20 hours of footage or something like that, with augustine fong in every second of it. That is where I draw my inference.
He is my sigongs kung fu brother and my direct lineage, I was told that his 50/50 triangle foot work is not 50/50 its like 55/45 just not evenly weighted. Then again we could just be arguing semantics.
Due to my bad posture of a lifetime habit, my head tends to lean too much forward like a grappler’s or a predator’s which makes me somewhat naturally aggressive. I’m interested in your view of "how the head of the Little Training Head need to be place? " Balance is never easy. The more you try to grab it it just slips away from your fingers like sand.
Regards,
PH
P.S. It would be great if you post under your other thread of Jing topic as it is somewhat unrelated to the current thread. Thanks.
Gangsterfist-
I cant comment on what you have been told or what you think you see.
I am not arguing with your perceptions.
Appearances/perceptions can be deceptive.
Working with someone gives one a better idea.
In ygkym and chor ma he is 50/50 all the way around the mother line..
There are tests for that.
Weights can change with bjd and kwan work as part of adjustments and also one legged stances also involve adjustments-
so also in various phases of contact work.
He has an annual instruction module and seminar in Tucson in late April and early may- would be a good way to see it and discuss it for yourself, if you are interesed.
To clarify a previous statement reguarding those Augustine Fong DVDs…
the YJKGYM is 50/50 no doubt. Some of his pressing stances or attacking stances are a bit back weighted. Its a very slight difference, but obvious. My only visual reference is off the DVD. He has one of his students on the DVD doing sparring techniques, the student also when in pressing stances looks a tad back weighted.
Other than that he does look to be 50/50 in a lot of other stances, its only in a few peticular which is different from what I was taught. I am not saying one is right and one is wrong, I am just acknowledging a difference. If I ever get a chance to train with Fong I would definately ask him and show me in person what the stance truly was. It very may well be a deceptive looking stance or camera glitch, or whatever.
Re: Fong’s dvd.
in the very first dvd (fundamentals, I think) the voice over describes 60/40 weighting (in application, not ygkym which is no doubt 50/50). Now days Sifu Fong teaches 50/50. I asked him about this change and he described it as an evolution/refinement in his teaching. Basically we train for 50/50, but appreciate that in application you have in essence upto 60/40 as a grace period.
This is only my interpretaion of his teaching.
Thanks for the clarification. Those DVDs are a nice set of visual references when training and you cannot get in touch with a sifu. My sifu just warned me when using the DVDs as a training tool, don’t train the 60/40 stance, train 50/50.