I heard the southern mantis style is more powerful then it’s northern counterpart.
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Is it true southern praying mantis produces better fighters then the northern praying mantis style??
Yes thats true…lots of famous fighters like…uh…and then there is…come to think of it, no southern mantis is pretty much unheard of. I’ve never heard of a southern praying mantis fighter. From pics on the net they seem more the kind that don’t train physically. They talk a lot, but I’ve never seen any of them fight or heard about them doing well fighting.
I don’t know where you heard or got your infomation from? About the southern mantis system
being more powerful then, the northern mantis system,as well as the southern mantis producing better fighters then there northern counterpart as you put it…
I have to ask myself did I miss something here or what?.. Becauce when I think of the northern mantis system. I think of the northern 7 star mantis system… The list of masters from this system speaks for itself all you have to do is look at the history of the northern mantis system to realize that!!!..
Now grant you the northern 7 star mantis system has been & stll is a proven system when it comes down to fighting…
That fact is without question!.. Now if you want to believe that it is then thats on you…
All that tells me is that you haven’t found or seen a real northern 7 star mantis master/teacher who knows the system well enough to teach it not to mention explain it to his student for that matter!..
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What about the southern mantis style ,taught by GIRWAN SUE ,based in PERTH. He has some pretty good students and his style is smashing ,comparing that to the 7STAR MANTIS STYLE ,that came through to our school,(refer to DUTY OF CARE)They complained of the training being too hard and vigorous for them,and the training was for all in general,not that the training was singled out specially for them.How do you explain this as one of the main complaint was an instructor,of the 7 STAR PRAYING MANTIS STYLE.??
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I don’t know, I wasn’t too impressed by the southern mantis websites that Sifu Carl posted a day or two ago - there was one in particular that had 8 - 12 second mpegs with applications.# 7 was OK because there was some semblence of footwork.If I saw those, it would definately deter me from taking up southern style.BTW, thanks to Sifu Carl for posting those websites, there was some good reading.
As a student of the Southern Mantis system, this thread is extremely disappointing, and somewhat offensive!
I’m not going to blabber on about which style makes better fighters, and all the other associated rubbish. It’s the individual trainee and the trainer that shapes fighters. It is my personal belief that the style has only secondary influence on the matter of producing good fighters.
Here is a link to a Chow Gar school website (I’ve posted this link nearly a dozen times 
) =>
http://www.chinesekungfuacademy.com/home.htm
Juggler…
Juggler… is Henry Sue your sifu ? I have friends who train with him. Let me know.
‘If we do not go within, we go without’.
I agree with Juggler, it is indeed the person and not the style that makes a good fighter. But in defence of 7* praying mantis of which I do, we have had southern mantis students come to challenge us, who left very demoralised finding themselves very vulnerable to the 7* mantis sweeps, for which they had no reply.
But one must understand that each style has its good and bad points. No style is completely perfect and no style completely sucks, so therefore it has to be the individual that makes a good fighter.
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Mantis King:
I find your story of Southern Mantis having no reply to sweeps as being quite interesting. What sort of sweeps are you talking about? Leg sweeps or arm sweeps?
If leg sweeps, those Southern Mantis students are probably in the junior grades, where kicking and kick defense is only taught as a side-salad.
If arm sweeps, I’m quite stunned that those students could not deal with it. :eek: Unless they were very junior.
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Southern mantis not good fighters? Well, they may not be the most famous, but then again, they didn’t really go around advertising and spreading their art very much in teh past like the Northern mantis people did - most practitioners were Hakka and they liked it somewhat secretive just fine. ANyway, I’ve met enough S-Mantis guys who fought quite viciously and were excellent sparring partners. And it’s the art, it’s the artist! Heck I know of an Aikidoka (and yu know how much grief they get for Aikido not being “street-worthy”…) who is the slipperiest sunavagun when sparring (yes, he spars!). So neither N or S mantis the best. They’re both good.
…don’t think you are, know you are…
Chu Gar Tong Long is #1 among both southern and northern system
Southern Praying Mantis is Chu Gar Tong Long–yes,
Southern Mantis is much more practical and powerful than Northern Tong Long IMHO.
This is funny
We have one troll called beatiful, now we have another called Handsome.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Guns don’t kill people, I kill people
What the fuc@ are you talking about Handsome ? It has to do with the violence/intent that you apply your art - you don’t know shi@ just like your butt buddy Whambo - so, wayyy shut the fuc@ up.I will offer you the same challenge to you as Whambo - just read it Bitc@ and email me.Other than that, shut the fuc* up.Have you ever been in a street brawl? That will test your “art”
Like lawclansman ( who happens to know both N & S mantis ) said , one is not better than the other. They’re just different.
NO ROAD IS AS LONG OR FILLED WITH AS MANY OBSTACLES AS THE ONE TRAVELLED BY THE CHINESE BOXER. FEW ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT . THOSE THAT REACH IT’S END ARE EVEN FEWER.
North,South,Hit either one with a can of Black Flag and they’re out,fly swatters work good also.
Or ya could just squash them by stepping on them.
Errr…ahhh…,just kidding guys,don’t get mad,
what did this guy expect to hear on a Northern
Mantis board?
:rolleyes:
The reason you may see southern mantis guys apply better techniques is because s. mantis is not a flashy style.
First of all, both styles are very rich and no one is better than the other.
If you look at s. mantis, the normal person’s view would be " this style is weird. Why are their stances like that. I don’t want to learn this style. "
The normal person would see northern mantis more appealing then southern mantis. So the people thta do join s. mantis have something about their personality that makes them work hard. Do you guys understand what I’m trying to say? A style like s. mantis or wing chun - you’re probably going to find more people in there that know what they are doing. In other styles such as northern shaolin or northern mantis, you’ll most likely find people that do kickboxing. Maybe it’s the number of forms that the systems in northern kung fu have. Who knows.
Don’t get me wrong. I come from a northern mantis background but I’m just shedding light on the topic. Personally I’ve seen more wc and s. mantis guys that know what their doing, more than northern mantis or shaolin. If you asked me to join wingchun or s. mantis when I was 16, I would say HELL NO. If you ask me now, I would do it.
I do not wish to fight.
thank you
cha kuen -
thank you for bringing this up..
this is what exacly happened to me. i was an 8 step student for 2 years and was kind always just woundering what move i was going to use in a fight, looking for that lucky punch. Then the school burned down and i still was woundering. So i decided to go to wing chun and i will never go back. wing chun makes much more sense as far as it being like a science and holding up to beeing an effiecient system using economics of movement, time and space concepts… 6 gate thorey, strong structure… it may not look flowery but it sure is effective and will surprise you with the truth. Most people that join wing chun are older(twenties and up).Anyway this is my experience. gota go…
I do not wish to fight.
I don’t usually post here but I have a…
Dumb question. If Southern Mantis bears no resembelence to Northern Mantis, why the hostility? Is it merely the use of the word Mantis or something else?
I have no hostility toward southern mantis. I think it’s a great style that focuses a lot on the “ging.” I have no beef against any style actually.