Is it a need of a SLT and SNT set?

The marialist way is to maintain harmony with oneself and ones surroundings

Plenty of exceptions to that rule at all levels in WC-land. Talk’s cheap, and hifalutin platitudes the same.

I thought that we would be able to work together here and learn from oneanother,obviouly that is not true.

Not on this thread, certainly. Other threads are different, I think.

Will you turn on me now and claim that I don’t know “WC,VT,WT,VC”?

No, but if you start getting on a high horse after only eight posts, you’ll probably be told where to stick your lectures on how you think others should behave.

Re: stick to the subject

Originally posted by todi laugin
[B]The marialist way is to maintain harmony with oneself and ones surroundings. So far you guys have left this behined.

Where is your hospitality, your inner peace, your civility,and your aceptance of others. Why did you start this thread?

Did you do it so you could luer others into a trap to ambush them when they voice a different opinion?

I thought that we would be able to work together here and learn from oneanother,obviouly that is not true. Will you turn on me now and claim that I don’t know “WC,VT,WT,VC”? [/B]

Be able to be staying in balance and embraced others view disregard of what they are. and, One can always find positive constructive components from all side, with a two (multi) way viewing instead of the ordinary – one way viewing, is a training itself.

Not a simple stuffs.

But the forum with many differents views and personalities is a great way to observe oneself, isnt it?

Can one stay balance, silence, aware, and living in Now? beyond emotion out flow, perturb, and living within one’s own thougths, that is not a thought process or a way of thinking,
but an attainment need to be achieved.

But then, that attaiment has to based on at least a glims of the always Present, the no-dual, the original face, or the Buddha nature. which is not an alterstate but an always present existance beyond thoughts or the thinker or thinking. and there on one can surrender the emotion to think according to one’s value and reference — ego, which is a hinderance to real understanding of reality.

only then, one will have the based of the reverse observation experience and not attached to Thoughts or the thinker. where the two (multi) ways observation is possible. where the Aways present open up the view from a singel path viewing based on one’s thinker to multi path… as it is said, open the lotus of thousand pedals, be able to view all conciousness without rejection, the crown chakra.

as it said in the Prajnaparamita heart sutra


Verse 5

tasmac chariputra apraptitvad bodhisattvasya prajnaparamitam asritya vibaraty acittavaranah. cittavarana-nastitvad atrasto viparyasa-ati-kranto nistha-nirvana-praptah.

Therefore, O Sariputra, by reason of his nonattainment (of nirvana), the bodhisattva, having resorted to prajnaparamita (transcendental wisdom), dwells serenely with perfect mental freedom. By his non-possession of mental impediments (the bodhisattva) without fear, having surpassed all perversions, attains the unattainable (bliss of) nirvana.


That is the legend of the past…

How many had attainted the mental freedom with SLT to activate the multi ways observation, sensing, listerning …ect and open up more and bigger dimentions … bliss and compassionate to all living beings?

A Good Question of is it a need of SLT and SNT set? or within the SLT set, there exist another training which is goes beyond the Thinker?

Perhaps the legend is just a legend. Perhaps it exist because we still can read a collection of its details illustration…

Instead you go on copying stuffs from sutra you’re something separate and well defind --Picachu–something with a name, your identity.

Truth speaks to us directly, without words.:wink:

Originally posted by KFD
it means all the posts that i read from you seem to be pointless. or insulting to people, which is rude and annoying.

More precisely! Awareness of this—where there are questions, there are no answers from Hendrik. In other words, it is pointless to discuess the SLT of white crane and the WCK (SNT/CK/BJ) with him.:rolleyes: